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The Bellesiles of the Right? Another Firearms Scholar (John Lott) Whose Dog Ate His Data
Slate ^ | 2/3/2003 | Timothy Noah

Posted on 02/04/2003 7:27:50 AM PST by choosetheright

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To: choosetheright
I'm still inclined to give Lott the benefit of doubt -- namely that he did a poor job of recording and organizing a survey performed 5 years ago. One interesting aspect his detractors could pursue would be to investigate whether there is corroboration of a computer crash.
41 posted on 02/04/2003 2:54:08 PM PST by Tribune7
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No, I think my views are colored by real-world research in which even the most meticulous scholars can and do lose research trails when computers go up in smoke.

Moreover, the stat in question, if you look at the actual quotation by the critic, is in fact just as Lott claimed. The critic was trying to say that "brandishing" a gun did not include firing, or firing and missing. I think that counts as "brandishing."

I can assure you that there are few, if any, historians who could have a major article (let alone a book) completely citation-checked and not blow several. You accidentally flip dates, drop page numbers, interpolate years and months. Most of the time, by most scholars, it is certainly NOT on purpose. But as careful as anyone is, it slips in. I have had a book read by myself, several dozen students (whom I rewarded with cash prizes for finding typos or other errors), at least five colleagues, a general editor, a specific editor, a copy editor, and a proofreader, and I STILL find minor errors involving citations where I had the right citation, but a number got flipped in printing.

The ONLY history journal I am aware of that even checks citations is the Journal of Southern History, which checks every secondary citation and all primary citations they have access to. It used to be that referees for publishers did this, but no longer. That was the crime with Bellesiles' book: KNOWING they had a controversial book that "challenged" traditional understandings, the publisher had an obligation to double check those citations.

Lott, on the other hand, is in exactly the opposite position: he KNOWS that people like the critic lurk everywhere to discredit him.

And there is a difference between a lie and a mistake or genuine lost survey results.

42 posted on 02/04/2003 3:24:03 PM PST by LS
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Instapundit has been following this story for months. He and others with extensive knowledge of the details of the story comment on Noah's story here.
43 posted on 02/04/2003 7:05:05 PM PST by beckett
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BUMP
44 posted on 05/27/2003 5:55:54 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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