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To: CatoRenasci
As I say, there is only one thing at issue here: was the data he used in his ORIGINAL study, on which everything else was based, legit and reliable. It was. It is available on-line at the University of Chicago web site. They have been after him for years, and unable to touch his data.

You could gain a quick confirmation, though, of this number if you reviewed simply the listings in the "American Rifleman" NRA magazine, where they have a page at the front dedicated to use of guns in foiling robberies, self-protection, or in fending off animal attacks. I've never counted, but I'd bet that in 99% of the cases, all the people ever did was merely brandish a gun or fire it in the direction of the intruder and the intruder left.

25 posted on 02/04/2003 9:04:36 AM PST by LS
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To: LS
As I say, there is only one thing at issue here: was the data he used in his ORIGINAL study, on which everything else was based, legit and reliable. It was.

That's an interesting notion - that lies don't matter as long as you're honest about something else that's more important. I tend to think that when a person lies about something, even an incidental thing, it goes to the person's credibility. For example, Bellesiles always defended himself on the ground that the probate records that he was accused of distorting or falsifying were only a couple of footnotes in a huge book. But if he lied about those, I think it's hard to trust the rest. And Clinton and his defenders always said it didn't matter if he lied about extramarital affairs, because it was incidental to the really important thing - how he did his job as president. But lies matter. Credibility matters. Don't make excuses for a liar like John Lott just because you like some of his conclusions.

32 posted on 02/04/2003 9:54:49 AM PST by choosetheright
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