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No rally to Powell's evidence at U.N.
UPI | 2/05/03 | Roland Flamini

Posted on 02/05/2003 1:44:05 PM PST by kattracks

UNITED NATIONS, Feb. 5 (UPI) -- Ten out of 14 members of the U.N. Security Council Wednesday called for the continuation and strengthening of weapons inspections in Iraq despite U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell's dramatic 75-minute expose of Saddam Hussein's secret build-up of weapons of mass destruction.

At the same time, all called on Iraq to cooperate with the U.N. inspectors.

Powell was hoping to rally the members of the 15-member council with what on Monday he called "a straightforward, sober and compelling demonstration that Iraq is deliberately thwarting U.N. weapons inspectors." But the report embellished, with photographs, de-classified reports, and taped telephone intercepts, received the public support of only Britain, Spain, Bulgaria and Chile.

In their statements following Powell's speech, representatives of other permanent and non-permanent members said inspection procedures needed to be tightened and the inspections should continue.

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw compared the current U.N. approach to Iraq to the inactivity of world powers between the wars that led to the rise of Hitler and World War II. Straw said the United Nations' predecessor, the League of Nations, "had the same high ideals as the U.N." but failed to take action. As a result, "small evils went unchecked, tyrants were emboldened, then greater evils were unleashed."

The League of Nations was founded in 1919 in the wake of World War I, but was disbanded in 1939, having failed to prevent World War II.

"At each stage, good men said wait; the evil is not big enough to challenge," Straw went on. "Then before our eyes the evil became too big to challenge. ... We owe it to our history as well as to our future not to make the same mistake again."

Britain has strongly backed the Bush administrations' hard line in seeking to disarm what they sight as Saddam Hussein's chemical and biological arsenal. British troops are being deployed along side the massive U.S. military force in the Persian Gulf in preparation for an eventual attack on Iraq.

Straw stopped short of explicitly threatening armed action against a non-compliant Iraq. "Saddam must be left in no doubt as to the serious situation he now faces," he said. "If non-cooperation continues, this Council must meet its responsibilities."

French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin called for the inspections to be strengthened, and outlined procedures for making them more effective. "Why go to war if there still exists an unused space in Resolution 1441?" he asked.

The Security Council's Resolution 1441 of Nov. 8 was the basis for sending weapons inspectors back to Iraq after a four-year hiatus, and called on Iraq's full cooperation.

"With the choice between military intervention and an inspections regime that is inadequate for lack of cooperation on Iraq's part, we must choose to strengthen decisively the means of inspection," Villepin said.

The French foreign minister proposed doubling or tripling the number of inspectors, opening more regional offices, and setting up a clearing house of intelligence information to make it available to the inspectors in real time. He also suggested appointing a permanent U.N. coordinator for disarmament in Iraq, stationed in Baghdad and working under the authority of Hans Blix, the U.N. head of the inspection process.

Villepin said France was offering Mirage IV observer aircraft to boost the technical capability for monitoring and collecting information.

He also called on Saddam Hussein to cooperate actively by surrendering "documents on unresolved disarmament questions, in particular in the biological and chemical domains," and providing the inspectors "with answers to the new elements presented by Colin Powell."

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Ivaov and Syria's permanent representative to the U.N. Mikhail Wehbe were the only two speakers to raise the issue of a second Security Council resolution to gain time and put further pressure on the Iraqi regime. The Bush administration has not said it is opposed to a second resolution, but would want it to be a U.N. ultimatum authorizing an invasion of Iraq if Saddam Hussein did not disarm.

But Ivanov called for "a political settlement." He said Powell's evidence should be handed to the two organizations involved -- the International Atomic Energy Agency, and UNMOVIC, the U.N. Monitoring, Verification, and Inspection Commission -- for verification.

"The activities of the international inspectors in Iraq must be continued," Ivanov said. "They alone can help the Security Council work out and adopt the best possible decisions."

Russia, with China, France, Britain and the United States, are veto-wielding members of the Security Council.

Chinese Foreign Minister Tang Jiaxuan urged Iraq "to adopt a more pro-active approach, make further explanations and clarification as soon as possible and cooperate with the inspection process." He also observed that "it is the universal desire of the international community to see a political settlement to the issue of Iraq within the U.N. framework and avoid any war."

Joschka Fischer, foreign minister of Germany, which currently holds the presidency of the Security Council, called the Saddam Hussein regime "inhuman and brutal," and said there was widespread belief that the Iraqis were hiding weapons of mass destruction, particularly chemical and biological weapons. But "by tightening the inspections, we are creating an opportunity for a peaceful solution," he went on. The United Nations needs "tough, intensive inspections that can guarantee the full, lasting, disarmament of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction."



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To: pt17
Like any bad tennant, sometimes you have to pay them to vacate the premises.

Why not have the US build the UN a new headquaters they have been so badly wanting, in Paris, France.

21 posted on 02/05/2003 2:02:15 PM PST by blackdog (People are not sheep. Sheep are superior by far.)
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To: kattracks

U.N. = Irrelevant Freeloaders subsidized on American Taxpayer $'s


22 posted on 02/05/2003 2:03:25 PM PST by Caipirabob ([Formerly: Yakboy] Democrat.. Socialist..Commie..Traitor...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Puppage
At the same time, all called on Iraq to cooperate with the U.N. inspectors

These people are a total joke.
Powell clearly showed that Saddam was making a laughing stock out of the nations supporting inspections.

I can't believe we even bother with the UN.

I am almost convinced these nations resent the SuperPower status of the US so much that they might actually like to see another 9-11 to destroy US dominence.

23 posted on 02/05/2003 2:04:09 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Question_Assumptions
He's definately an an idiot. And so is Bush. Reagan, in his current state, is smarter than both of them combined.
24 posted on 02/05/2003 2:08:59 PM PST by ValenB4
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To: Free_at_last_-2001
I think that would be disasterous at least as far as the framing of this war goes. If we pull the plug on the UN our Arab so-called friends will have no cover. The war will be framed as a unilateral war of agression, rather than an enforcement of the collective will of the peoples of the world.

Of course, we can still win the war, if it is framed that way. The deeper worry is whether we can win the peace if the war is framed that way.

I suppose one could just say to the world. "This train is leaving the station. You either get on board or be a bystander." We can then hope that the enough others won't want to be bystanders for some reason or other.

It would be one thing if we had never gone to the UN. It's quite another given that we bowed to the relevance of the UN to give the finger to the UN now.
25 posted on 02/05/2003 2:11:13 PM PST by leftiesareloonie
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To: kattracks
"Ten out of 14 members of the U.N. Security Council Wednesday called for the continuation and strengthening of weapons inspections in Iraq despite U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell's dramatic 75-minute expose of Saddam Hussein's secret build-up of weapons of mass destruction. "

Irrelevant Debating Society - Bump!

26 posted on 02/05/2003 2:14:58 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Islamofascism sucks!)
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To: kattracks
I thought that the guy from Cameroon was really effective...
27 posted on 02/05/2003 2:17:52 PM PST by ken5050
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To: MHGinTN
Exactly. Powell was rubbing the UN's own crap into its ignorant members faces. Whether that doggie learns to clean up after itself is no longer the business of the Nations United as a Coalition to Free Iraq and to Destroy the Ba'ath parties WMD.
28 posted on 02/05/2003 2:18:13 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: AmericanInTokyo
The only way it would have been any better would be if Iraq was on the SC..then Koffi could call a "time out"
29 posted on 02/05/2003 2:19:09 PM PST by ken5050
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To: meenie
The forecast concerning the 700 to 800 cruise missiles which will hit Baghdad's command-and-control centers in the first two days of the war is only a part of the opening tactics for the war.

(I personally assume that we will attack all of their known scud sites and artillery emplacements with something akin to timed fire--calculated to impact all at the same time. It's the warheads and shells which are already readied and/or loaded--not the stockpiles or production facilities--which we need to worry about first. We can take out the suspected stockpiles and production sites right after that.)

30 posted on 02/05/2003 2:19:23 PM PST by the_doc
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To: *war_list; *UN_List
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31 posted on 02/05/2003 2:20:43 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: kattracks
This is truly bizarre. It is like a big international IQ test with those wanting to continue the inspections scoring at the bottom. It is akin to betting on instant replays! Not since Chamberlain has this level of diplomatic stupidity been flaunted.
32 posted on 02/05/2003 2:20:50 PM PST by Dionysius
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To: the_doc
don't forget the special forces sent in to secure the oil fields prior to the attack..
33 posted on 02/05/2003 2:22:11 PM PST by usnret99 (I served! Have You?)
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To: blackdog
Why not have the US build the UN a new headquaters they have been so badly wanting, in Paris, France.

Fitting, very fitting. Part of me, though, would like to see us quit the UN, ask them to leave and then watch the twits fight over which country would get UN HQ. Why not introduce some more rancor and splits into an already odiferous organization?
34 posted on 02/05/2003 2:22:50 PM PST by pt17
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To: ValenB4
He's definately an an idiot. And so is Bush

Valen before what, you last banning?

35 posted on 02/05/2003 2:24:09 PM PST by j_tull (Osama Mama MUST be defeated!)
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To: Jorge
Didn't Bush say he would be giving another speech after Powell's presentation? I think it will amount to "We showed you that they are thwarting your inspections, and you call for a continuation of inspections. To us, that represents obstructionism, and therefore, we will act on our own, thanks."
36 posted on 02/05/2003 2:25:10 PM PST by ez ("If this is not evil, then evil has no meaning." - GWB)
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To: Free_at_last_-2001
Party's over

I hope you're right. It's time to shed baggage (the UN) and move.
37 posted on 02/05/2003 2:25:49 PM PST by pt17
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To: kattracks
gagging... the UN reminds me of some parents I know...

Now, Jimmy... please don't throw rocks at the puppy, it hurts him and makes him sad...

Jimmy-Honey, Mommy asked you to stop hitting the puppy, it isn't nice and you are hurting him...

Please, Jimmy, as a favor to Mommy... stop hurting the puppy...

Jimmy, if you stop hitting the puppy with rocks, I'll buy you a new Playstion game....

Jimmy, you aren't being fair to Mommy and it is making Mommy sad now...

Jimmy, if you don't stop throwing the rocks I'm going to put you in a time-out. Be Mommy's little angel and stop now, okay?

Honey, you are still throwing rocks and now you made him bleed on his head... don't you want a new Playstation game? Please put the rocks down, pumpkin...


Makes you want to spank the PARENT!!!


38 posted on 02/05/2003 2:27:03 PM PST by Tamzee
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To: kattracks
America, please wake up. This isn't your father's U.N. from the Cuban Missile Crisis days. This is your great-grandfather's League of Nations all over again.

Time for America to get the hell out of this worthless organization.

39 posted on 02/05/2003 2:28:42 PM PST by jpl
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To: tomahawk
The only thing better than turning the UN into an empty debating society is to turn it into an empty building! Send in the 101st Airborne Inspection Team!

Pray for GW and the Troops

40 posted on 02/05/2003 2:28:56 PM PST by bray
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