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Parent Alleges Harassment for Exposing 'Fistgate'
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 2/06/03 | Lawrence Morahan

Posted on 02/07/2003 4:24:38 AM PST by kattracks

CNSNews.com) - Lawyers from a homosexual advocacy group took depositions from a Massachusetts parent this week, almost three years after he first exposed "Fistgate," a state-sponsored workshop in which educators instructed teens in graphic homosexual sex.

The deposition of Brian Camenker, taken Tuesday by lawyers for the Boston-based Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders, is an effort to put parents under financial strain and to discourage others around the country from bringing similar workshops to light, Camenker charged.

"If they are able to be able to beat us in Massachusetts, they can continue to hound any parent who gets in their way," said Camenker, president of the Parents Rights Coalition.

Two Massachusetts Department of Education staffers lost their jobs because of their involvement in the state-funded workshop held at Tufts University in March 2000, called "What They Don't Tell You About Queer Sex and Sexuality in Health Class." The Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network co-sponsored the workshop.

Homosexual advocacy groups have been pursuing lawsuits against Camenker and Scott Whiteman, another parent, for secretly recording, exposing and publicizing the event, in which instructors encouraged children as young as 14 years of age to engage in life-threatening sex acts. One instructor told the students: "Fisting often gets a bad rap."

"Fistgate" soon attracted national prominence. Among others, Sean Hannity discusses the event in his book, Let Freedom Ring, and William Bennett talks about the event in his book, The Broken Hearth . This past week, Alan Keyes made a trip to Boston to speak on behalf of Camenker and Whiteman, as well as rally support for their cause.

Legal defense costs since homosexual advocacy groups first deposed Camenker and Whiteman in the summer of 2000 have reached well over $100,000, Camenker said.

"It has a certain national significance as to what the gays can do to parents who expose the stuff," he added.

The Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders did not return calls for comment.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
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1 posted on 02/07/2003 4:24:38 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
The wickness was so great in the time of Noah that God sent a flood to destroy the people, and it seems like people are becoming like that now, so wicked that they do not deserve life. It is pitiful for man to sink so low.
2 posted on 02/07/2003 4:34:59 AM PST by tessalu
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To: kattracks
How about a countersuit?
There are many potential charges on which to place the sponsors under legal scrutiny.
4 posted on 02/07/2003 4:46:52 AM PST by G Larry ($10K gifts to John Thune before he announces!)
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To: JoJo Gunn
Ah, the one way street of "tolerance" shows up again. The fudge packers only have a right to an opinion, nobody else.

Anyone here ever try to tell people about "Fistgate"? The reactions I got were complete disbelief, especially when I mentioned that tax dollars went to support it. It was like they didn't want to know even when I told them that it would someday be coming to their child's school.

Are the "The Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders" sure they want to keep this can o worms open? Is that their final answer? Hope they lose badly.
5 posted on 02/07/2003 4:48:14 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: tessalu
"The wickness was so great in the time of Noah that God sent a flood to destroy the people,"

God also said He would never destroy with water again (I believe) Good News?

The next time will be with fire (Bad news).

6 posted on 02/07/2003 4:56:08 AM PST by SERE_DOC (Murphy's rules for combat #6... When in doubt, empty the magazine)
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To: kattracks; *Homosexual Agenda
The Gaystapo is incompatible with freedom.
7 posted on 02/07/2003 5:17:22 AM PST by FormerLib
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To: kattracks
Is there a way to help?
8 posted on 02/07/2003 5:27:36 AM PST by stevio
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To: stevio
A quick google turns this up:

Source: http://www.parentsrightscoalition.org/lawsuit.htm
Home: http://www.parentsrightscoalition.org

No guarantee of legitamacy:

Contact page: http://www.parentsrightscoalition.org/About_PRC.htm

P.O. Box 175

Newton, MA 02466

VOICE MAIL: (781) 433-7106

FAX: (781) 899-0992

Email: Office@ParentsRightsCoalition.org (see below)

The Lawsuit against the Parents!

This is a vicious reprisal by the Boston area (and national) gay activists in the schools against parents. They have been very clear that they intend to "punish" us -- and anyone else -- who gets in their way.

Read The Weekly Standard Article from last summer. This is probably the best synopsis of the situation. It's written by a New York Post writer. Famed civil libertarians Alan Dershowitz and Harvey Silverglate are quoted. It tells is like it is in the chilling Boston political and legal atmosphere of today.

The Tufts "Fistgate" Conference. Here are links to the whole story of what happened - and why the homosexual activists want to silence us so badly. YOU CAN GET A COPY OF THE TAPE FOR YOURSELF.

MORE TO COME - In the coming weeks we will be posting more detailed descriptions plus legal documents, including the infamous restraining order against even the entire Boston Media and the State Legislature from discussing the tapes!!

 

CAN YOU HELP?  DONATE?   Brian Camenker and Scott Whiteman are right now facing up to $100,000 in legal bills, and this case hasn't even gone to trial! They are using all kind of preliminary tactics to make us incur high legal bills. Any donation will be gladly accepted at:

Parents Defense Fund
PO Box 175
Newton, Massachusetts 02466

(Checks can be made out to: "Parents Defense Fund")
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!

Contact PRC


9 posted on 02/07/2003 5:57:54 AM PST by Tunehead54
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To: scripter; *Homosexual Agenda
Ping
10 posted on 02/07/2003 5:59:52 AM PST by EdReform (Can you spare a dime? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829652/posts)
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To: kattracks
This past week, Alan Keyes made a trip to Boston to speak on behalf of Camenker and Whiteman, as well as rally support for their cause.

Attention Keyes bashers.

You will know them by what they do

11 posted on 02/07/2003 6:01:27 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: SERE_DOC
The next time will be with fire (Bad news).

Would a meteor strike work for that? I've noticed He usually employs natural forces. (And why not).

12 posted on 02/07/2003 6:05:20 AM PST by banjo joe
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To: EdReform; Jim Robinson; John Robinson
Somewhere at FR I read a longtime FReeper decrying the loss of the ping groups - are they back? How are they sent? Is there a page listing them? A response would be appreciated! Thanks in advance.



13 posted on 02/07/2003 6:08:07 AM PST by Tunehead54
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To: kattracks
This is a reminder there is a cost to standing up and doing what is right........................something we should all be thinking about.
14 posted on 02/07/2003 6:08:17 AM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: SERE_DOC
The next time will be with fire (Bad news).

Please cite the source for this.

15 posted on 02/07/2003 6:08:33 AM PST by webstersII
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult; JoJo Gunn
"Anyone here ever try to tell people about "Fistgate"? The reactions I got were complete disbelief, especially when I mentioned that tax dollars went to support it. It was like they didn't want to know even when I told them that it would someday be coming to their child's school."

Yes. And you can read the reply here.

16 posted on 02/07/2003 6:10:11 AM PST by EdReform (Can you spare a dime? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829652/posts)
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To: Tunehead54
That's the group. I first saw Brian Camenker when he addressed the Newton School Committee regarding a controversial "sex-ed" (i.e. pornographic) program. (Newton is a notoriously liberal Massachusetts town along the lines of Brookline and Cambridge.)

The antipathy directed toward him at the meeting is hard to imagine.His efforts foreshadowed the infamous battle against an "AIDS awareness program" featuring former stand-up comedienne, Suzi Landolphi of "Hot, Sexy, and Safer Productions" in Chelmsford, MA in 1993. I'm not making this up. You can read the CNN whitewash here.

I've read the transcript of the presentation which can only be described as pornographic. She began the presentation asking the students if they were interested in "a group sexual experience." It was downhill from there, and included her discussing the size of various boys' penis', a recommendation to girls to masturbate over a mirror on the floor, and pulling a condom over a student's head.

17 posted on 02/07/2003 6:12:15 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: kattracks
Besides the moral outrage, there is the safety question.

Fisting is when you take your entire hand and put it into another person's rectum. The chances of injury are high. Here is a quote from a pro-fisting site:

The primary dangers of fisting are damage in and around the anal/vaginal opening. Minor damage can come in the form anal/ vaginal fissures which are tiny tears in the skin surrounding the anal/ vaginal opening, tenderness associated with the stretching of the openings and/or a lack of lubrication and bleeding caused when fissures occur. Severe damage is the actual tearing and ripping of the anal/vaginal muscles sometimes leading to incontinence (a loss of bowel retention/ control), usually caused by an over eager- ness to achieve full insertion of the fist without allowing the muscle tissue to relax and adjust. The severest form of damage are the inversion of the bowel, in which the bowel tears loose from the abdominal cavity and protrudes outside the anal opening and peritonitis, an infection caused by fecal material entering the sterile abdominal cavity through tears in the bowel walls. The death rate is well over 60% when this condition occurs as there are no nerve endings to tell you something is wrong.

I can't imagine a medical doctor in their right mind that would recommend this activity. How can we be teaching this activity to kids?

18 posted on 02/07/2003 6:15:19 AM PST by Brookhaven
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To: G Larry; All
"There are many potential charges on which to place the sponsors under legal scrutiny."

From Chapter 272 - CRIMES AGAINST CHASTITY, MORALITY, DECENCY AND GOOD ORDER - of the "GENERAL LAWS OF MASSACHUSETTS", let's look at some of the other interesting sections of that chapter that pertain to the Fistgate workshop:

Chapter 272: Section 28. Matter harmful to minors, dissemination; possession; defenses.

Section 28. Whoever disseminates to a minor any matter harmful to minors, as defined in section thirty-one, knowing it to be harmful to minors, or has in his possession any such matter with the intent to disseminate the same to minors, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than five years or in a jail or house of correction for not more than two and one-half years, or by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars nor more than ten thousand dollars for the first offense, not less than five thousand nor more than twenty thousand dollars for the second offense, or not less than ten thousand nor more than thirty thousand dollars for the third and subsequent offenses, or by both such fine and imprisonment. A prosecution commenced under this section shall not be continued without a finding nor placed on file. It shall be a defense in any prosecution under this section that the defendant was in a parental or guardianship relationship with the minor. It shall also be a defense in any prosecution under this section if the evidence proves that the defendant was a bona fide school, museum or library, or was acting in the course of his employment as an employee of such organization or of a retail outlet affiliated with and serving the educational purpose of such organization.

Chapter 272: Section 29. Dissemination or possession of obscene matter; punishment; defense.

Section 29. Whoever disseminates any matter which is obscene, knowing it to be obscene, or whoever has in his possession any matter which is obscene, knowing it to be obscene, with the intent to disseminate the same, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than five years or in a jail or house of correction for not more than two and one-half years or by a fine of not less than one thousand nor more than ten thousand dollars for the first offense, not less than five thousand nor more than twenty thousand dollars for the second offense, or not less than ten thousand nor more than thirty thousand dollars for the third and subsequent offenses, or by both such fine and imprisonment. A prosecution commenced under this section shall not be continued without a finding nor placed on file. It shall be a defense under this section if the evidence proves that the defendant was a bona fide school, museum or library, or was acting in the course of his employment as an employee of such organization or of a retail outlet affiliated with and serving the educational purpose of such organization.

An excerpt from Chapter 272: Section 31. Definitions applicable to secs. 28, 28C, 28D, 28E, 29, 29A, 29B, 30 and 30D.

Section 31. As used in sections twenty-eight, twenty-eight C, twenty-eight D, twenty-eight E, twenty-nine, twenty-nine A, twenty-nine B, thirty and thirty D, the following words shall, unless the context requires otherwise, have the following meanings:-

""Disseminate'', to import, publish, produce, print, manufacture, distribute, sell, lease, exhibit or display.

""Harmful to minors'', matter is harmful to minors if it is obscene or, if taken as a whole, it (1) describes or represents nudity, sexual conduct or sexual excitement, so as to appeal predominantly to the prurient interest of minors; (2) is patently contrary to prevailing standards of adults in the county where the offense was committed as to suitable material for such minors; and (3) lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value for minors.

""Knowing'', a general awareness of the character of the matter.

""Lascivious intent'', a state of mind in which the sexual gratification or arousal of any person is an objective. For the purposes of prosecution under this chapter, proof of lascivious intent may include, but shall not be limited to, the following:

(1) whether the circumstances include sexual behavior, sexual relations, infamous conduct of a lustful or obscene nature, deviation from accepted customs and manners, or sexually oriented displays;...

""Minor'', a person under eighteen years of age.

"Obscene'', matter is obscene if taken as a whole it

(1) appeals to the prurient interest of the average person applying the contemporary standards of the county where the offense was committed;

(2) depicts or describes sexual conduct in a patently offensive way; and

(3) lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value...


Since the majority of the workshop participants were students under the age of 18 and considered to be minors under Mass law, it is the instructors of the Fistgate workshop who should be brought up on criminal charges for violating Sections 28 and 29 of Chapter 272 of the "General Laws of Massachusetts".

19 posted on 02/07/2003 6:23:31 AM PST by EdReform (Can you spare a dime? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829652/posts)
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To: kattracks
And the same people who promote this Homosexualism are the same ones that say "we have to learn why the Muslim world hates us so much".
20 posted on 02/07/2003 6:30:03 AM PST by Guillermo (Sic 'Em)
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