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Anthrax: Hatfill Manuscript Prompted FBI Forest Searches
Global Security Newswire ^ | February 7, 2003 | Mike Nartker

Posted on 02/08/2003 7:10:06 PM PST by Gorilla44

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To: The Great Satan
Thanks.

Hatfill has a spook background, so does Scott Ritter and it sounds like Clawson may too.
41 posted on 02/08/2003 10:38:42 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Gorilla44
And in other news: The FBI announced today that the American public should be on the lookout for angry white right-wing males driving white trucks in the Washington, D.C. area, as these types are the FBI's prime suspects for the recent sniper shootings in that area...

< /MOCKING >

42 posted on 02/08/2003 10:48:08 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: The Great Satan
Great Satan -

There is a dearth of evidence about the real mailer. The only way to get more evidence is to get him to mail again. He won't mail if he thinks the feds suspect him. By making Hatfill appear to be the suspect, the real mailer is reassured that he is not suspected. When he strikes again, they will have more evidence. The Feds may also have one or more individuals under observation. My guess is they know who the mailer is - at this point they want to know who his masters are.
43 posted on 02/08/2003 10:51:48 PM PST by motexva (Cool site I saw today - antiwarcelebwatch.blogspot.com)
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To: The Great Satan
Very curious! Thanks for the heads up!
44 posted on 02/08/2003 10:54:16 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Still watching this.

Could have more to do with Tony Blair at Camp David OR the Snipers since those ponds were VERY CLOSE to where they were picked up and maybe there was something on the computer they had.

45 posted on 02/08/2003 11:09:18 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
I'll be very interested if they turn up any information. But the entire anthrax investigation has been a "watch the birdie" to me. I believe they knew from the onset who was behind it but were not in a position to deal with it until now.
46 posted on 02/08/2003 11:14:36 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: AndyJackson
"If the FBI has no evidence, then it should frost neither Colim Powell, nor any good conservative who believes that this battle and all of the battles we fight are about defending our Constitution and the rights subscribed therein...."

RIGHT ON!

The U.S. would NEVER endanger it's own Citizens with this kind of crap!


A POX UPON YOUR HOUSE FOR EVEN SUGGESTING IT!!!!

I SAY LET'S GO GET THE ROTTEN BASTARDS THAT WOULD PRESUME TO "GAS THEIR OWN PEOPLE"!!!!

[when does the bombing start at Detrick & Dugway?]

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"HEY, I SAW IT AT FREEPERLAND...IT'S GOT TO BE REAL!!!!"

"People who are anxious to bring on war don't know what they are bargaining for; they don't see all the horrors that must accompany such an event." - Stonewall Jackson

HEY, MY ONLY DAUGHTER DIED IN 1980 FROM BIRHT DEFECTS CAUSED BY BIO-CHEMICAL WARFARE RESEARCH....AND I CAN STILL GET IT UP FOR WAR...

CAN'T YOU?

WHAT, NO SENSE OF THE IRONIC?

WIMP!
47 posted on 02/08/2003 11:46:27 PM PST by wakingtime (OK, All Together Now...Kumbaya my Lord, Kumbayaaaggghererrkkk Hack, Cough, Stillness!)
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To: Alamo-Girl
The Anthrax profile fits the Sniper Profile as far as "running the letters". The problem is they are accepting that there is only one person involved in the scenario and I think that's just plain stupid.

There should be 2 profiles, one for the scientist and another for the "runners" which would fit the Snipers so close, it's pathetic (excepting they're assuming a white male AGAIN such as Timothy McVeigh). They never say white in their profile but it certainly is implied. Don't forget, Mohammed Williams had the anthrax vaccine during the Gulf War.

48 posted on 02/08/2003 11:58:38 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: motexva
Uh, I don't think so.
49 posted on 02/09/2003 12:00:06 AM PST by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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To: The Great Satan
Why do you think Colin Powell had so much to say about anthrax in his speech on Iraq?
50 posted on 02/09/2003 4:58:13 AM PST by aristeides
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To: Sacajaweau
Hmmm ... thanks for sharing your views!
51 posted on 02/09/2003 7:21:40 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: aristeides
Why did Colin Powell say so much about Anthrax??

Because Chemicals are Saddam's specialty. We know ABSOLUTELY that Saddam has Anthrax, the scientists & deliverers. It's why I associate the specialty of the snipers (hit & run)to Saddam as deliverers.

Usama's "specialty" is buildings and bombs. His deliverers normally wind up dead.

P.S. Had the snipers stopped earlier, would they have gotten away?? Probably, just like the anthrax scenario. I think they didn't get paid for their anthrax scenario. Since they couldn't retaliate against their "real" enemy..they went on a "watch how it works" (hit & run).

52 posted on 02/09/2003 7:32:58 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Badabing Badaboom
Word is that the unnamed ex-UN inspector in the article is Spertzel.

That would make sense. He has never made any attempt to hide the fact that the weaponization analysis shows the anthrax came from Iraq.

54 posted on 02/09/2003 9:31:36 AM PST by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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To: Nita Nuprez
"Sure it will. No one is paying attention but us."

I dunno. Even the Washington Post is getting suspicious...

55 posted on 02/09/2003 9:31:45 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: aristeides
Why do you think Colin Powell had so much to say about anthrax in his speech on Iraq?

The technical term for that is a "hint." America is being blackmailed by Saddam Hussein, and Saddam's victim is hinting to the blackmailer and the watching world that he might be close to exposing the blackmail. It is a reminder that, even if we can't do anything about the anthrax now, sooner or later, we can and will reveal the truth. So, short of taking an early retirement in Tangiers, Saddam will be exposed, as will his enablers at the UN.

On a smaller scale, Cheney did the same thing on MTP last fall, blurting out of nowhere: "Who sent the anthrax, Tim?" A couple of other interesting things happened in the run-up to the 9-11 anniversary speech to the UN. First, a few weeks before the speech, the FBI very publicly announced a hunt for the undiscovered anthrax letters in the AMI building. The search was scheduled to end 9/11/02. BTW, two anthrax letters were received at AMI, according to the CDC, and both were read by their recipients. Despite that, no details of what was in them have ever emerged. Can you guess why?

Hatfill's press conferences last August had a dual purpose: they both served to inject life into a fraying cover story (hence the whopper about the non-existent girlfriend and the non-existent FBI interview), and they served as a hint to Saddam Hussein, just before Bush's UN speech, that the cover story might be retired. Saddam Hussein is the blackmailer here: he knows that Amerithrax is a cover story. He's following the fate of Amerithrax very closely, of that you can be quite sure.

56 posted on 02/09/2003 9:47:56 AM PST by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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To: patriciaruth; OKCSubmariner; Nogbad; Mitchell; Travis McGee; EternalHope; Plummz; honway; ...
A blast from the past, with a revealing subtext:

FBI and CIA Suspect Domestic Extremists

Officials Doubt Any Links to Bin Laden
By Bob Woodward and Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, October 27, 2001

Top FBI and CIA officials believe that the anthrax attacks on Washington, New York and Florida are likely the work of one or more extremists in the United States who are probably not connected to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda terrorist organization, government officials said yesterday.

Senior officials also are increasingly concerned that the bioterrorism is diverting public attention from the larger threat posed by bin Laden and his network, who are believed to be planning a second wave of attacks against U.S. interests here or abroad that could come at any time, officials said.

Rest of article...

That was what Woodward wrote in the Washington Post on October 27, 2001. This is from his account of a National Security Council meeting of October 17 in Bush at War:
They turned to the hot topic of anthrax. The powder in the letter mailed to Senator Daschle's office had been found to be potent, prompting officials to suggest its source was likely an expert capable of producing the bacteria in large amounts. Tenet said, "I think it's AQ" – meaning al Qaeda. "I think there's a state sponsor involved. It's too well thought out, the powder's too well refined. It might be Iraq, it might be Russia, it might be a renegade scientist," perhaps from Iraq or Russia. Scooter Libby, Cheney's chief of staff, said he also thought the anthrax attacks were state sponsored. "We've got to be careful on what we say." It was important not to lay it on anyone now. "If we say it's al Qaeda, a state sponsor may feel safe and then hit us thinking they will have a bye because we'll blame it on al Qaeda."

"I'm not going to talk about a state sponsor," Tenet assured them.

"It's good that we don't," said Cheney, "because we're not ready to do anything about it."

Fast forward to the United Nations General Assembly, February 5, 2003:
Back to the conclusion of Woodward's book:
As we walked back, Bush again brought up Iraq. His blueprint or model for decision making in any war against Iraq, he told me, could be found in the story I was attempting to tell--the first months of the war in Afghanistan and the largely invisible CIA covert war against terrorism worldwide.

"You have the story," he said. Look hard at what you've got, he seemed to be saying. It was all there if it was pieced together--what he had learned, how he had settled into the presidency, his focus on larger goals, how he made decisions, why he provoked his war cabinet and pressured people for action.

I was straining to understand the meaning of this. At first his remark and what he had said before seemed to suggest he was leaning towards an attack on Iraq. Earlier in the interview, however, he had said, "I'm the kind of person that wants to make sure that all risk is assessed. But a president is constantly analyzing, making decisions based upon risk, particularly in war--risk taken relative to what can be achieved." What he wanted to achieve seemed clear. He wanted Saddam out.

Before he got back to his truck, Bush added another piece to the Iraqi puzzle. He had not yet seen a successful plan for Iraq, he said. He had to be careful and patient.

"A president, he added, "likes to have a military plan that will be successful."

And let's check in with CBS News for a report: Plans For Iraq Attack Began On 9/11.

Everybody figured this out by now?

57 posted on 02/09/2003 11:51:55 AM PST by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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To: Allan
Bump
58 posted on 02/09/2003 12:37:52 PM PST by Allan
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To: The Great Satan; MadIvan
Good day, "Satan." Anthrax came up specifically again today in the latest chapter of the Blix-ElBaradei charade. I don't have a transcript, and I didn't pay the closest of attention to news reports on this fine Sunday morning in Southern California. But the news was something to the effect that the Iraqis did provide additional paperwork on anthrax and VX. Other pertinent news that's come out this weekend is the fact that the ricin plotters in Great Britain made their way from Northern Iraq via France with the help of an Albanian Muslim freelancer (as he was described on Fox News).

In other words, the ricin plot actually matured in France. Both the French and Germans are aware of this: the information they have constitutes that damnable "smoking gun" the media are always blathering about. Yet they still oppose action against Hussein. It's looking increasingly to me, anyway, like something much more sinister is going on with France and Germany than merely their desire to protect their own financial interests in Iraq. Hence the ping to MadIvan, to solicit his take on all this, plus any news from his country about the ricin plotters' connection to cells in France.

Being on the outside looking in, folks like you and I certainly don't know all the pieces of the puzzle. But there can be no doubt in any thoughtful person's mind that the anthrax attacks, and other bioweapons threats, are what's driving U.S. and British actions against Hussein. That's why I so resent the breathless, accusatory tone of the 9/4/02 CBS article you posted a link to. Given Hussein's history, it would have been the height of recklessness for any SecDef NOT to issue an immediate order on 9/11/01 to the military to draw up contingency plans to attack Iraq, just in case. On that very day, at that very moment — indeed, while Rumsfeld was still helping with the wounded, as the CBS piece says — our government could not assume anything and had to prepare for every possible contingency. At the time, we didn't know if there would be other attacks at any moment, from any direction.

59 posted on 02/09/2003 1:05:01 PM PST by Wolfstar
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To: Wolfstar
That's why I so resent the breathless, accusatory tone of the 9/4/02 CBS article you posted a link to.

Of course it always had to be Iraq. What other countries were we at war with on 9/11/01? This is not brain science, except to the libs -- but then, for them, everything is brain science.

60 posted on 02/09/2003 1:48:20 PM PST by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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