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1 posted on 02/09/2003 7:21:54 AM PST by SheLion
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To: *puff_list; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; Madame Dufarge; ...

"We need your money to balance the budget, BUT, you can't smoke here and you can't smoke there! We want a SMOKE FREE STATE, but GIVE US YOUR MONEY!"

Sound familiar?

2 posted on 02/09/2003 7:23:54 AM PST by SheLion
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To: SheLion
They ought to prove smoking causes AIDS then the left will love smokers
3 posted on 02/09/2003 7:27:46 AM PST by uncbob
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Rush is right.

Hey, maybe they should legalize heroin, cocaine, and marijuana. And how about prostitution? Have they thought of those cashcows?

6 posted on 02/09/2003 7:42:40 AM PST by Savage Beast
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The smoking ban movement makes sense as people have an increased understanding of the harm of second-hand smoke, said Bronson Frick, associate director of Americans for Nonsmokers' Rights, a nonprofit organization that promotes smoke-free environments.

Basis?

Hi SheLion!

7 posted on 02/09/2003 7:43:31 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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y'know, what puzzles me is why tobacco companies don't print the price on the pack, as in $1.25 plus state, federal, and loacl taxes, so that people will understand just how much of this goes to taxes, and get angry every time they buy cigarettes, other tobacco products, and alcohol.

dep

8 posted on 02/09/2003 7:47:40 AM PST by dep
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Today it is tobacco, but what will it be tomorrow? The number one cause of health problems in America today is obesity. I believe the next victim is going to be meat. I know this does not sound possible now, but once they start their campaign to demonize it, "Meat causes obesity, heart disease and is carcinogenic. People who eat meat in public are a bad examples for our children". It does not matter if Atkins was right and it may be healthier to eat meat than bread. Remember the studies about second hand smoke turned out to be bogus and no one really cares. "Cattle rasied for their beef are destroying the rain forests and their nasty gas is destroying the ozone." Today it is tobacco, tomorrow meat and maybe sometime down the evil white hetrosexual male.
12 posted on 02/09/2003 8:16:24 AM PST by HomerG
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We can raise the price of cigarettes and the taxes on them as high as we want. THERE IS NO LIMIT!!

Smokers are such slaves to their terrible, deadly addiction that they are powerless to abandon it. When they are so enslaved, there is no price too high for their drug delivery system of choice.

The drug not only enslaves, it also destroys ALL rational thoughts processes. Thus, we see blind rejection of any study suggesting that secondary smoke is bad, hallucinations about equating smoking with freedom, and ad hominem attacks of those trying to help.

Those who question the wisdom of politicians placing so much reliance on the future income stream from oppressing a decreasing number of smokers (they die off at a much quicker rate), need not worry, the money will be there. They are too stupid and addicted to stop. And, it is part of the job of non-smokers who don't want higher taxes, either, to keep them adgitated and, therefore, smoking.

In fact, we can pay for the extra police we need to keep bars smoke free by raising the cigarette tax. Smoking in back, by the dumpsters will still be OK, at least for a while.

15 posted on 02/09/2003 8:22:38 AM PST by Tacis
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I am LIVING (I think) proof that second hand smoke is a scam.

My Mom smoked when she was pregnant with me, smoked while I was a baby, and smoke my whole life while living in her house.

I started smoking at the age of 12, at 41, I am now up to 3 packs a day.

I am a truck driver who keeps the windows up all the time, summer to use the air conditioner, winter to use the heater. The wing window is cracked about a half inch most of the time.

So I probably get 2nd, 3rd and 4th hand smoke. As I stated above, I think I'm still alive (it's hard to tell sometimes).

Not only is my state using the cigarette settlement money for everything but what it is for, they raised our taxes another 75 cents a pack.

Do I care? NO!!!!

I get mine from the reservation at $13.00 a carton.

For those not old enough to remember, it used to say on the side of the packs "Smoking Causes Cancer". You will notice that it no longer says that, because they can't prove it.

Everyone is born with the cancer cell in their body. Now how your own body handles it is an individual thing.

I have known many people who have smoked like I do who never got cancer, and just as many who NEVER smoked who died of cancer.

Seems to me that smoking is only hazardous to non smokers. My advice, everyone start smoking, it may save your life.
19 posted on 02/09/2003 8:33:40 AM PST by AlabamaRebel (Sergeant, US Army 1978-1985)
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As a smoker I have stopped giving blood to the Red Cross. I do this to save lives as I don't really know what pathogens may be entrained in my bloodstream owing to the smoke.

In realiity I am just boycotting doing favors for anyone.

31 posted on 02/09/2003 9:54:43 AM PST by scouse
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"And it's being demonized with the huge amount of money that came from the tobacco settlement."

Pertinent statement here.
They are using the money that smokers who buy premade cigarettes provide them to demonize smokers.
We need to get the word out more to ALL smokers to but from the net and make their own.

35 posted on 02/09/2003 10:17:34 AM PST by Just another Joe
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Add Montgomery, AL to the cities buying the "second-hand" smoke BS. And surrounding towns like Prattville are following like sheep.

I do not smoke cigarettes, only an occasional cigar. I don't like to smell smoke when I'm dining, but most establishments have non-smoking areas that work fairly well. The line the councils are buying/selling is that it's the employees who are subjected to "second-hand" smoke and it's detrimental to their health. One State of Alabama employee was on local TV last week claiming her cancer was due to "second-hand" smoke in her State office environment.

And I thought I was living in Alabama, not some liberal bastion. But then again, Montgomery is the State Capital and it seems that liberals do gravitate to public troughs.

52 posted on 02/09/2003 12:01:58 PM PST by auboy
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