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Democrats on defense with Hispanics
Washington Times ^ | 2/10/03 | Donald Lambro

Posted on 02/09/2003 11:24:43 PM PST by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:00:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: sinkspur
Haven't you been watching the liberal judges? They do!
21 posted on 02/10/2003 5:19:22 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: sinkspur
Oh, c'mon Sink. Indulge the man. God knows we need another close the borders/I hate Mexico thread!
22 posted on 02/10/2003 5:32:06 PM PST by The Coopster
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To: kattracks
"The message isn't clear so that the average American can identify with it. I don't think we are in touch with the on the economic issues,"

Would that be the "regular American" discussing issues at the "kitchen table?"

-PJ

23 posted on 02/10/2003 5:46:44 PM PST by Political Junkie Too
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To: Bonaparte
I felt a bit unclean after visiting the link you provided, and I cleared my history file and erased my cookies because of it. ....Sent it to my Rat in-law though, and I'm sure it'll tick him off. On the other hand, his defense mechanisms and capacity for denial are so extreme, it wouldn't surprise me if he attempts to explain away the commie endorsement as some aberration.
24 posted on 02/10/2003 7:19:32 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: hchutch
We just need to keep it up.

Bump for progress.

25 posted on 02/10/2003 9:54:13 PM PST by PRND21
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To: PRND21; hchutch
Bump for progress.

You should be aware that hchutch is on the record as favoring Amnesty for nearly every Illegal in the country, which you're on the record as opposing.

If he gets his way, you can kiss any progress goodbye.




26 posted on 02/10/2003 10:00:31 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
I believe we all have the same goal...death to present day liberal bullshit. hchutch and Ronald Reagan's views on amnesty are not the same as mine, but valid. Recent elections show that your kiss may be a bit presumptuous, as well.
27 posted on 02/10/2003 10:09:04 PM PST by PRND21
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To: kattracks
"But his biggest complaint is that the party has not put forward a clear, compelling and visible alternative to the president's agenda..."

How long has this been the excuse?

When are they gonna figure it out? Everyone comprehends their alternatives just fine...and they've promptly dismissed them as being Liberal dreams out of pace with the current realities.

Pure denial mixed with a desperate longing for the Clinton Glory Days.

How sad.

28 posted on 02/10/2003 10:09:14 PM PST by VaBthang4 (Jeremiah 51;24 "..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: kattracks
The message isn't clear so that the average American can identify with it

The message is clear enough. Nobody is buying it

29 posted on 02/10/2003 10:11:38 PM PST by paul51
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To: PRND21
I believe we all have the same goal...death to present day liberal bullshit. hchutch and Ronald Reagan's views on amnesty are not the same as mine, but valid. Recent elections show that your kiss may be a bit presumptuous, as well.

At least Reagan had the excuse of not knowing that Amnesty would only bring more of the liberal flim flam. By now, though, the rest of us should know better.




30 posted on 02/10/2003 10:13:17 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
While you are still virile, you will look back fondly on the days when most of our illegals were Hispanic. That is my musing for the evening.
31 posted on 02/10/2003 10:17:35 PM PST by Torie
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To: kattracks
Some say they long for Bill Clinton's ability to shape and market the party's message better.

LOFL, translation: Democrats long for another smooth liar.

32 posted on 02/10/2003 10:18:04 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Torie
While you are still virile, you will look back fondly on the days when most of our illegals were Hispanic. That is my musing for the evening.

Given the unswerving daintiness of both parties and the current administration with regard to Illegals, you may well be right.




33 posted on 02/10/2003 10:22:56 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Given the unswerving daintiness of both parties...

You forgot to add the American Voters lusty appetite for affordable gardners, laborers and nannies.
It's easier to blame others, I'm sure.

34 posted on 02/10/2003 10:30:02 PM PST by PRND21
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To: PRND21
You forgot to add the American Voters lusty appetite for affordable gardners, laborers and nannies. It's easier to blame others, I'm sure.

Or to equivocate. I suppose?

In what elections have the American voters given any politician a mandate to welcome Illegals and grant them Amnesty?

Was Amnesty a Bush platform plank in 2000? Were his fingers crossed when he placed his hand on the Bible and swore to faithfully execute the laws of the land? Were those of other politicians?




35 posted on 02/10/2003 10:34:52 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: kattracks
You really have to shake your head at the utter stupidity of the Democrat "leadership". They are alienating a very sizable voting block, the Hispanics, all because of their irrational fear of any judge who takes the US Constitution seriously.

It is my opinion that the Republicans should coldly and relentlessly smash the scumbag Democrats over the head with this fiasco until the anti-Hispanic mindset of the Democrat party becomes "conventional wisdom". This Democrat filibuster of an appelate court nominee - - the first ever - - staggers the mind. The Republicans, especially Bush's people, are playing the Democrats like a fiddle. You have to marvel. They must be laughing their behinds off over champagne.

36 posted on 02/10/2003 10:34:54 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Sabertooth
In what elections have the American voters given any politician a mandate to welcome Illegals and grant them Amnesty?

Ridiculous question. The People are hiring, that's all I'm saying.
Buchanon showed how immigration stands as a platform...it's a money maker, period.

Was Amnesty a Bush platform plank in 2000?

No, nor will it be in 2004.

37 posted on 02/10/2003 10:43:04 PM PST by PRND21
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To: PRND21
Ridiculous question. The People are hiring, that's all I'm saying.

Disingenuous answer. You didn't say "People," you said "American Voters."

Buchanon showed how immigration stands as a platform...it's a money maker, period.

Buchanan showed that never-elected third party candidates don't get elected. Again. Period.

No, nor will it be in 2004.

Because openly supporting Amnesty is a political loser. No politician is ever going to be voted out of office for getting tough with Illegals.




38 posted on 02/10/2003 10:50:55 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Disingenuous answer. You didn't say "People," you said "American Voters."

One in the same in this case.

No politician is ever going to be voted out of office for getting tough with Illegals.

I would hope not, but debatable (debateable?).

Dodgers in 5.

39 posted on 02/10/2003 11:13:05 PM PST by PRND21
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To: PRND21
One in the same in this case.

Yet at #37, you attemtpted to make a distinction. Make up your mind.

There is a reason why the voters aren't given the opportunity to make a choice against Illegals: because they would.

Ever wonder why we have school bonds, police bonds fire department bonds... but never "goodies for Illegals" bonds?

Dodgers in 5.

Over whom? The Padres?




40 posted on 02/10/2003 11:37:15 PM PST by Sabertooth
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