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To: Grig
1. There is some doubt about whether the earth is actually warming or not with thermometers giving a different answer from satellites, balloons, and numerous proxies.

2. There is more doubt about the causes of the possible change with natural, cyclical, solar, ocean currents, land use changes, aerosols, greenhouse gases, or one of multiple combinations being advanced by various scientists.

3. There is some doubt about whether warming is good or bad for life on this planet.

4. There is great doubt about the accuracy of computer climate models.

5. It seems there is little doubt that, even with full implementation and compliance with Kyoto, the affect on the earth's climate will be so small that it will not be measurable since it will be within the bounds of natural variation.

6. It seems rather foolhardy to embark on public policy of complying with Kyoto that could potentially have serious impacts on our standard of living when the affects of that policy will be unmeasurable and insignificant.

7. The people who want Kyoto are the same people who want a revolutionary change in society and a single world government. It seems they are just using climate change as an excuse to achieve their goals.
4 posted on 02/10/2003 5:38:43 PM PST by Number_Cruncher
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To: Number_Cruncher

Great Points. Further amplification.

1. NASA Global satellite network that monitors atmospheric
tempatures around the world shows no chnage in mean
tempature for the last 25 years,

2. One factor that has never been controlled for in the data
coming from land-based wheather stations is urban heat
island effects. All the land-based data may be hopelessly
skewed.

3. In general, warmer climates raise agricultural, noone
can say for sure what the effects would be; that hasn't
stopped global warming advocates from positing nightmare
scenarios of coastal cities being inundated.

4. The computer models have been shown to be a joke. When
these models are given real climatological data from the
recent past and asked to predict current climate
conditions based on such data they have produced wildly
divergent results.

5., 6., 7.
The Kyoto treaty was and is the "America, jump in a lake
treaty so that European politicians can pander
irresponsibly to our Green parties in Europe treaty" from
the beginning.

All the European signatories were given compliance
exemptions because of their greater use of nuclear
power. The developing nations were exempted as well,
including China.

Only we here in the US would have had to make painful
adjustments under Kyoto . This was the case in spite
of the fact that North America is a Greenhouse Gas
sink, that is, our forrests absorb more greenhouse gases
than we emit despite out love of SUVs. This is so
because our agriculture is so productive many farmland
tracts have been allowed to revert to forrests.

Kyoto was a blatantly unfair treaty that we were right
to reject.
6 posted on 02/11/2003 9:44:21 AM PST by ggekko
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