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Japan threarens to ask U.S. to launch pre-emptive attack on North Korea
Agence France-Presse via Taiwan News ^ | 2/10/03

Posted on 02/10/2003 4:21:32 PM PST by Heartlander2

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To: Nagual
stop buying "Made In China" junk and start making our own junk.

Or failing that, buy "Made in Mexico" junk, that might help keep so many Mexicans from coming here. The same applies to several other Latin American countries. Set up a "Fortress of the Americas", and tell the rest of the world to go fly a kite, preferably in a Thunderstorm.

21 posted on 02/10/2003 5:30:47 PM PST by El Gato
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To: agincourt1415
The Japs have long memories and a lot of national pride.

As a result of a treaty that we were a party to in the early 1900's. They hated us for it, which lead to WWII.

The history books have been re-written re dumbdown, but the ones I read when I was going to HS and College said exactly that.

Down deep the Japs still hate us, so we need to watch what we give them.

Instead, let them arm themselves with conventional weapons, and let them pay us for them, so they can fight the North Koreans when the time comes.

22 posted on 02/10/2003 5:40:37 PM PST by oldtimer
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To: Heartlander2
If a North Korean missile fell on Japanese territory or waters, the Tokyo government would convene an emergency meeting and consult the United States on counter-measures, the Yomiuri Shimbun newspaper said.

You know, I really don't think the emergency meeting would be necessary. This is Japan's way of telling NK "you're dead meat the momment the missle is fired".

23 posted on 02/10/2003 5:43:13 PM PST by Life of Brian
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To: Heartlander2
I can't believe that the Japanese would have to ask in the first place.
24 posted on 02/10/2003 5:49:40 PM PST by rudypoot
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To: El Gato
buy "Made in Mexico" junk

I don't know about that. I have bought some electronics crap that failed, opened it up and have seen the Made in Mexico branding. Really bad solder jobs and construction. The Chinese stuff is better.

25 posted on 02/10/2003 5:57:38 PM PST by roadcat
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To: oldtimer
I guess that you could be right, but they hate the North Koreans worse, or shall we say they have more to fear from the North Koreans.

The Japanese know where their bread is buttered. They benefited from our getting their heads right.

Look at them now, 50% of the cars in America are made in Japan.

26 posted on 02/10/2003 6:02:52 PM PST by agincourt1415 (First 3 to 4 days of War a Living Hell for the Enemy)
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To: oldtimer
"As a result of a treaty that we were a party to in the early 1900's. They hated us for it, which lead to WWII. The history books have been re-written re dumbdown, but the ones I read when I was going to HS and College said exactly that."

You're right, most of our history books don't teach this, but I was also fortunate to have some good history teachers. The Japanese didn't bomb us for the heck of it, it was partly due to built-up resentments. I doubt they hate us, any more than they hate the Russians (who they whipped real good at the turn of the century (previous one). But they do remember that we and the Russians held them back from being all they could be, so we must be careful how we arm them.

27 posted on 02/10/2003 6:06:57 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Heartlander2
Japan bttt
28 posted on 02/10/2003 6:50:38 PM PST by lodwick
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To: Heartlander2
maybe time for Japan to start thinking about building an army of its own to defend itself
29 posted on 02/10/2003 7:52:41 PM PST by saxxa
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To: DoughtyOne
If I were Japan, I'd be on an excelerated path to nuclear weapons development.

Though I'm not positive, because of their Constitution I doubt that they legally can. A Constitution that the United States, for the most part, wrote.

30 posted on 02/10/2003 7:57:02 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: KickRightRudder
Next comes the navel blockage.

Ouch! That sounds painful. Don't they have a pill for that nowadays?

I think you meant 'naval blockade'.

31 posted on 02/10/2003 7:58:53 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: oldtimer
The history books have been re-written re dumbdown, but the ones I read when I was going to HS and College said exactly that.

True enough. Teddy Roosevelt bears as much or more responsibility for WWII as does Franklin Roosevelt.

The Russians and the Japanese were disputing over the territory of Manchuria in 1905. Russia had poured troops in there, and the Japanese had planned to keep it within the Japanese Empire. After Russia promised to leave the area in 1902, and didn’t leave, the region quickly escalated into war. Japan had for the most part been winning the war, and were also financially strung out, but when Roosevelt had a conference with the leaders of both nations, he conceived a peaceful solution. He declared Japan the victor, and Manchuria would be handed over to Japan. But, Russia did not have to pay reparations for the losses of Japan. This extremely angered the Japanese and threw them into a deep depression. They never forgot this and is commonly thought to be the act that set in motion the events that led to the attack on Pearl Harbor.

32 posted on 02/10/2003 8:09:35 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: oldtimer
Down deep the Japs still hate us, so we need to watch what we give them.

I don't know where you get your misinformation, but I lived with them for 15 years. Yes, there are the arrogant kool-aid drinking types who think that Japan could've won World War II and been better for it.

But for every one of these kooks, there are 100 who praise America and McArthur for the help we gave them after the war, grumblings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki notwithstanding.

We are Japan's best customer by far and in a business and merchantilist economy which values customers that, alone, means a lot.

33 posted on 02/10/2003 8:17:54 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: Heartlander2
.."IS it SAFE?" = HILLARY on Armed Services Committee..

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629
34 posted on 02/10/2003 9:05:55 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ( ..Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LzXRay.com .)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I realize that you may be right. Cut that out! ;)
35 posted on 02/10/2003 10:27:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: roadcat
I don't know about that. I have bought some electronics crap that failed, opened it up and have seen the Made in Mexico branding. Really bad solder jobs and construction. The Chinese stuff is better.

Now it is, but it wasn't at first. As a counter example I've been buying Aguila brand ammo for quite some time, it's made in Mexico on Remington tooling (they used to make it for Remington) and I've not had a single misfire with the stuff. In addition to "normal" ammuntion, they also make some innovative, if unorthodox, stuff, like really short shotgun shells (More rounds in a tubular magazine).

36 posted on 02/11/2003 6:25:57 PM PST by El Gato
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To: oldtimer
Down deep the Japs still hate us, so we need to watch what we give them.

While Nations do not have friends, but only interests, I don't think the Japanese still hate us. Like an aspiring bully that gets the snot beat out of him by one of his would be victims, and becomes good friends with him later, the Japanese know they got the snot beat out of them, fair and square. Our post war reconstruction and re-work of their government didn't harm matters either. On top of all that, we're their best market. Of course many Japanese didn't hate us even before the war. Unlike Admiral Yamamoto, they mostly didn't know us. It's really a shame we had to kill him, but he was their most competant leader.

37 posted on 02/11/2003 6:31:52 PM PST by El Gato
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To: agincourt1415
Look at them now, 50% of the cars in America are made in Japan.

Or at least by Japanese Companies. Many of them are made in the US, for the cheap labor (and reduced shipping costs). My Mazda was built in a Ford plant in Michgan, and that line has been since 1990. Toyota just annouced they are building a new truck plant in San Antonio, and everyone here is all a twitter about it.

38 posted on 02/11/2003 6:38:06 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Nagual
"If the Chinese step in, all we have to do is stop buying "Made In China"

All you really have to do is shut down Costco and the Red Army will lose their weapons appropriation ($$$) for the period.
39 posted on 02/11/2003 7:02:45 PM PST by Spirited
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