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K-12 History Curriculum Endorses Slavery Reparations
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 2/12/03 | Michael L. Betsch

Posted on 02/12/2003 3:18:03 AM PST by kattracks

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To: NativeSon
Sorry, already there (((Navajo))).

Which tribe originally occupied the land where modern day Berkeley is located? I'd love to see them demand it back, and to hear the waffling, tap-dancing leftist response.

101 posted on 02/12/2003 10:56:43 AM PST by Denver Ditdat
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To: kattracks
I'm in favor of the Reparations, as long as we can first make a few deductions:
1. For the cost of providing freedom in the Land of Liberty, under the rule of law;
2. For introducing them to Western ethical & philosophical traditions;
3. For introducing them to the written word, so they no longer have to rely on "verbal history;"
4. For bringing them to the Iron Age, from the Stone age;
5. For providing them with an environment free from malaria, typhus, the tsetse fly and sleeping sickness;
6. For the cost of the hundreds of thousands of lives lost during the War of Northern Aggression;
7. For the costs of rebuilding American cities destroyed by riots.

Do you suppose any net reparation will be left, or could a reasonable man say the net result is that Blacks owe "reparations" to Whites?
102 posted on 02/12/2003 11:10:50 AM PST by Redbob
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To: cb
"really smart people like Walter Williams say that it was the BEST thing that ever happend to blacks in this country. Otherwise they'd still be in Africa...."


Walter didn't think it through. If it wasn't for slavery (I'm not suggesting it wasn't a horrible thing) not one black person who can trace ancestory to slavery in America would be alive today, except by an unimaginably small, virtually impossible chance.

103 posted on 02/12/2003 11:12:20 AM PST by Ed2
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To: Denver Ditdat
Which tribe originally occupied the land where modern day Berkeley is located? I'd love to see them demand it back, and to hear the waffling, tap-dancing leftist response.

Good question, California had the greatest number of "tribes" than anywhere else and most of them well killed off- literally. It could be the; Castano, Patwin, Yokuts, Miwok, Pomo, etc. people.

It would be great to find some tribe that could connect themsleves to that "nest" and demand the land back.

They would give themselves strokes trying to be "sensitive".

On a similiar line you would not believe how enraged Lefties get when they talk to me; A Conservative NA who doesn't buy into Socialism, they go all apoplectic with rage.

104 posted on 02/12/2003 11:21:24 AM PST by NativeSon (you wanna' learn about a holocaust?)
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To: kattracks
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"Dennis Smith" ??? . . . Hmmm . . . sounds like a name that decended from "Whacko Jacko" !!!

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105 posted on 02/12/2003 11:22:07 AM PST by GeekDejure
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
Hey - my ancestry's half Irish and half Cajun. What did I win in the something-for-nothing whiner's lottery?

Help, help - I'm being oppressed!
106 posted on 02/12/2003 2:53:33 PM PST by Noumenon
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To: demkicker
We Won't Pay

and

Civil War II: The Coming Breakup of America

bump!

107 posted on 02/12/2003 3:04:08 PM PST by Noumenon
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To: Warrior Nurse
Greetings Warrior Nurse, FReepers, et al:

If we are going to teach the kid about history start with how corrupt leaders will destroy civilization. This has happened since time and memorial. Moral leadership is what is need the President is providing just that.

How correct you are!

And a Warrior EMT

BIG WELCOME

to FReeRepublic.
108 posted on 02/12/2003 5:20:58 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Speak French: Le singe invertébré du drapeau blanc a le souffle de fromage!)
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To: Noumenon
Greetings Noumenon, FReepers, et al:

Hey - my ancestry's half Irish and half Cajun. What did I win in the something-for-nothing whiner's lottery? Help, help - I'm being oppressed!

Paging Johnnie Cochran.

109 posted on 02/12/2003 5:33:07 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Speak French: Le singe invertébré du drapeau blanc a le souffle de fromage!)
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To: raybbr
You're right about the divisive nature of this issyue - it's a flashpoint for Civil War II. I sent this article to the rest of the family and some friends with some commentary:

This is garbage. Stand up and refute anyone who proposes reparations for slavery. If the liars and haters on the Left succeed with forcing people and companies to pay reparations, the refusal of folks like ourselves to submit to this will start American Civil War II. We won’t start the fight, but we’ll damn well finish it.

He said it is important for African-American children to be able to trace their culture back to the African tribe that they are descended from, noting that he traced his own roots back to a "great empire" in Africa that existed more than 400 years ago. [Except that it didn’t. Ward]

"Civilization itself started in Africa and it worked its way to this part of the world, but most African-Americans as well as white Americans don't know that," he said. "No matter how much we try to disprove that reality, it always comes back to the fact that civilization did start in Africa and then spread out throughout the rest of the planet." [Wrong again. The human species began in Africa, as far as we know. Humanity made the transition from tribal-based hunter-gatherers to agricultural societies elsewhere. Ward.]

According to Smith, racism has historically prevented African-Americans from being compensated for all of the pain and suffering that their ancestors endured. [Right. None of the blood shed in the first American Civil War counts for anything. Even though the issue of slavery was not he primary driver of the first American Civil War, Lincoln issues the Emancipation Proclamation as part of the effort to destroy the corrupt Southern culture of the time. It took Sherman and his famous March through Georgia to finish off the South. Ward]

"After World War II, Jewish Americans [were] paid reparations because of the Nazi atrocities, and rightfully so. After WWII, Japanese-Americans [were] paid reparations because of the internment," he said. "One last example is the recent 9/11. Those Americans are being paid reparations." [So forty years of affirmative action counts for nothing, either. The trillions – yes, I said trillions of dollars spent on ‘social welfare’ programs counts for nothing, either. Ward]

Goldstein said African-Americans suffered a "horrendous" fate both in their overseas transport to the Americas and on dry land as slaves. However, he disagreed with Smith's rationale for comparing slavery to the Jewish Holocaust. [Notice that they don’t mention the fact that before the Arabs made the scene, the most enthusiastic practitioners of slavery were black Africans themselves. They routinely slaughtered, tortured and enslaved members of other tribes – a legacy of savagery that continues on the African continent today.  The Arabs were the first out side of Africa to engage in the salve trade. Africans cheerfully sold their own into this promising new market. And it was later said that the routes of the Arab slave caravans could be followed by the trail of bones left by the dead left in their wake. Ward.]
 

110 posted on 02/12/2003 10:26:31 PM PST by Noumenon
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To: cb
Wow. You read a book. Well, that's it, I'm convinced. *Yawn*
111 posted on 02/13/2003 3:05:25 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: kattracks
I hope they teach them this. If they intend to teach the truth they need to.

Wilmot, explained to King Gelele: "England has been doing her utmost to stop the slave trade in this country. Much money has been spent, and many lives sacrificed to obtain this desirable end, but hitherto without success. I have come to ask you to put an end to this traffic and to enter into some treaty with me."

Gelele refused: "If white men came to buy, why should I not sell?" Wilmot asked how much money he needed. "No money will induce me...I am not like the kings of Lagos and Benin. There are only two kings in Africa, Ashanti and Dahomey: I am King of all the Blacks. Nothing will compensate me for the lose of the slave trade." Gelele also told Burton, "If I cannot sell my captives taken in war, I must kill them, and surely the English would not like that. - King Gelele of Africa

112 posted on 02/14/2003 3:57:03 AM PST by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: kattracks
"They have no idea what part of Africa they came from," he (Smith) said. "If they know where they came from, in terms of their culture, then they'll know where they are presently."

Say what? So, if they know where they are presently, will they know where they came from?

113 posted on 02/14/2003 4:09:26 AM PST by judgeandjury (The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
a man will never take a step forward embracing a past with bitterness and stupidity. Give these children a chance and teach them how to be Americans, and not to hang onto 200 years of hate and stupidity. Eminem is hip-hop is he african american culture, give me a break and find something worth fighting about, that is here and now.
114 posted on 03/02/2003 5:37:06 PM PST by irishsmitty
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