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With apologies to thugs everywhere....

Hmm.. let's see. Sixties leftist nitwit grows up to position of power in government, embraces criminal regimes around the world, and deals in bad faith with his alleged allies. Sound like anyone else we know?

1 posted on 02/12/2003 5:23:46 AM PST by Cincinatus
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To: Cincinatus
Sound like anyone else we know?

Same first letter as cockroach?

2 posted on 02/12/2003 5:29:13 AM PST by dighton
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To: Cincinatus
Bump
3 posted on 02/12/2003 5:33:32 AM PST by LiberationIT
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To: Cincinatus
The Germans have historically oscillated from one extreme to the other.
4 posted on 02/12/2003 5:43:17 AM PST by vishnu2
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To: Cincinatus
Germany is in the control of neo-commies and not likely to change in the near future. The best option for the U.S. is to get out and let them stew in their own juices.
5 posted on 02/12/2003 6:21:47 AM PST by hgro
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All this appears to be true -- I remember much of this first hand from news coverage. Yet it remains that this has nothing to do with whether Fischer's (and Schroeder's) viewpoint on the current Iraq crisis is valid or not. The commentary is, in that context, merely one long ad hominem smear. And typical of the New York Compost, which is not even an attempt at sober journalism.
6 posted on 02/12/2003 6:22:45 AM PST by Greybird (“We have crossed the boundary that lies between Republic and Empire.” —Garet Garrett, 1952)
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To: Cincinatus
History is so helpful
7 posted on 02/12/2003 6:25:09 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Cincinatus
Foolish German commie bump.
11 posted on 02/12/2003 6:40:14 AM PST by headsonpikes
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VERY BIG BUMP. This should be on the front page of the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Times, and yes, even the Washington Post this week!
12 posted on 02/12/2003 7:04:09 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Mesopotamiam Esse Delendam)
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To: Cincinatus
Why should we be so upset with Fischer who, after all, lives in Germany?

We managed to tolerate Bill Clinton in office for eight years and are realistically threatened with a Hitlery-for-Life Presidency!

15 posted on 02/12/2003 9:50:44 AM PST by Gritty
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Why do you think the Berlin Wall came down???

- Because it was no longer needed. In Europe, the Communists won and the wall came down.

They changed their name to "Socialist" or "Green" or "Labor" and took over France, all of Germany, and most of Western Europe as well. They even control the Democratic Party here too.

They didn't disappear. They simply moved west.

Such a massive, enormous concentration of Iron-boot-Communists, die-hard Marxists and radical Leninists that formed the deep Communist network of Gov't agents, secret police, officers and Gov't officials from the entire Eastern-Bloc doesn't just DISAPPEAR over night!!

They just changed their flag.

This German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer is proof that the Communists won the Cold war in Europe.



And if you don't already hate Germany...
Anyone remember from just a few months ago, that German Justice Minister Herta Daeubler-Gmelin?

Germany Witholds Moussaoui Evidence.
Sept 1, 2002
BERLIN (AP) - Germany has told the United States it will withhold evidence against Sept. 11 conspiracy defendant Zacarias Moussaoui unless it receives assurances that the material won't be used to secure a death penalty against him, Germany's justice minister said in remarks released Saturday. ...Justice Minister Herta Daeubler-Gmelin said: "Our documents cannot be used for the death penalty or for an execution."

German leader links Bush's 'style' to Hitler's
Sept 20, 2002
BERLIN — A German Cabinet minister yesterday stirred outrage at home and abroad by comparing President Bush's political style to that of Adolf Hitler... Justice Minister Herta Daeubler-Gmelin... told a small group of labor union members that Mr. Bush was using the Iraq issue to divert attention from domestic problems... "That's a popular method — even Hitler did that".



And Germany really wants to cooperate with China too:
Chinese Premier Meets German Justice Minister
July 26, 2001
Chinese Premier Meets German Justice Minister Premier Zhu Rongji met with German Justice Minister Mrs. Herta Daeubler Gmelin Thursday morning at the Great Hall of the People. Zhu said that the Chinese government pays special attention to the relations with Germany and regards Germany as a reliable partner. Over the past few years, the two countries have made new progress in all fields of cooperation.

Daeubler Gmelin, who is also coordinator for the German side for Sino-German legal exchanges and cooperation, said that she fully agrees with Premier Zhu's comments on the bilateral relations between the two countries, adding that the German side is happy to see the fast development of bilateral relations.




Hmmm... Now WHAT could the Communists now controlling Germany and the Communists in China be cooperating together on???

Hmmm....Let's review Germany's "unusual" relationship with rebuilding Iraq's weapons programs:

US House of Representatives, Testimony: October 4, 2001
"Iraq's Suppliers -
Iraq has built these capabilities almost entirely with imports. Before the Gulf War, Western companies sold Iraq turbopumps and rocket nozzles for extended-range Scud missiles, sold special furnaces and presses capable of shaping nuclear weapon components, and built turn-key plants for manufacturing poison gas agents. Without this help, Iraq's weapon programs could not have achieved anything near the success they enjoyed when the Gulf War began.

These procurement efforts continued during the 1990s, despite the prohibitions of the U.N. embargo. In 1999, our organization revealed that Iraq had imported a half dozen machines called "lithotripters" (which pulverize kidney stones inside the body without surgery) under the guise of humanitarian supplies.

Each machine, however, required a high-precision electronic switch that had a second use: it could trigger an atomic bomb.


Iraq wanted to buy 120 extra switches as "spare parts." Iraq placed the order with the German electronics firm Siemens, which supplied the machines but forwarded the order for the extra switches to its supplier, Thomson-C.S.F., a French military-electronics company.

It is uncertain whether the French government barred the sale. Stephen Cooney, a Siemens spokesman, claimed that Siemens shipped only eight switches, one in each machine and two spares. Sources at the United Nations and the State Department, however, believe that the number supplied is higher. It only takes one switch to detonate Iraq's latest bomb design.

In March 2001, our organization disclosed that the Chinese company Huawei Technologies, recently caught supplying fiber optic technology to Iraq's air defenses, had previously imported a large amount of sensitive U.S. equipment, and had an important license application pending to import more from Motorola."




Okay, so here it is:

FACT: Germany is overrun with radicals and Communists.

FACT: Germany is refusing to cooperate with the prosectution of known Al Qaeda terrorists here.

FACT: Germany sells atomic switches to Iraq in 1999 IN VIOLATION OF THE UN EMBARGO - the very same UN that Germany NOW wants US to obey!!!

FACT: Germany strengthen ties to China who ALSO sells Iraq air-defense technology.

FACT: France may have also supplied Iraq with atomic switches also.

FACT: France also has the majority of "post-sanction" oil contracts with the Iraqi Gov't. That means FRANCE gets most of the Iraqi oil rights IF the embargo is lifted. And THAT isn't going to happen if we go to war. For France, "No Blood Means THEY Get The Oil"



So... Now WHO is opposing us using force to disarm Iraq, destroy Saddam and dismantle yet another terrorist-supporting dictatorship???

France, Germany and China.

The very same Socialists, Marxists and Communists who actually helped ARM Iraq even in violation of the UN embargo.

16 posted on 02/13/2003 7:21:57 AM PST by The_Macallan
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