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Nervous Japan tells North Korea it will strike first
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 02/14/03 | Richard Beeston

Posted on 02/13/2003 3:40:01 PM PST by Pokey78

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Don't underestimate the Japanese. We did that once before and all hell broke loose. North Korea has been put on notice. Kim what's-his-name better listen up.
21 posted on 02/13/2003 4:23:26 PM PST by vortigern
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To: aught-6
last year there was an article here on freerep wherein the japanese were supposedly able and willing to have 100 nukes on line and operational by this years end... and 400 by next years end.

I do not doubt it.
22 posted on 02/13/2003 4:49:03 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (clintonsgotusbytheballs?)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
And on top of this, they have an economy that is on the verge of collapse...oh great.
23 posted on 02/13/2003 5:12:13 PM PST by Stavka2 (Setting the record.)
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To: Dutch Boy
Yep, them, various and sundry Arab states and the Germans all running around the ADA center. Japanese Defense Force guys were training on the Patriot system if I recall.

BTW, The German Officer's Club was the best place in all of Texas to spend Okotberfest...
24 posted on 02/13/2003 5:13:28 PM PST by Thunder 6
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Bravo Japan. They are saying nothing more than what we should be doing as well. And screw the leftist media. "Breakaway Island" of Taiwan my foot. An advanced democracy that has been independent now for more than fifty years.
25 posted on 02/13/2003 5:18:06 PM PST by Williams
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To: Pokey78
I strongly believe NK is doing this at the bequest of, or at least approval of the Chinese. So now....

China is strongly opposed to National Missile Defence, which it fears would make its own nuclear weapons arsenal obsolete. It is also worried that if the missile shield is developed for Japan’s defence, it may one day be extended to the breakaway island of Taiwan.

Good!!!

It's called blowback. China, may you reap what you sow! Better rein in Kim Il Jong right now if you don't want to see Japan with nukes and Taiwan with an effective ABM system. Frankly, I think it's too late. Japan will do what it has to.

26 posted on 02/13/2003 5:41:09 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Pokey78
"The International Atomic Energy agency reported Pyongyang to the UN Securtity Council for breaking its commitments to suspend its nuclear weapons programme."



LOL....ooohhhh...how scared do you think Pyongyang is? The UN does not solve problems, they create them but I do wish The International Atomic Energy agency luck in getting real results.
27 posted on 02/13/2003 6:03:41 PM PST by Arpege92
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To: Pokey78
This should drive China and Russia nuts.
28 posted on 02/13/2003 8:22:31 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Unfortunately I don't think that's in our best interest. But it'll sure cause great sadness for the NK's, Chicoms, and the Russians.
29 posted on 02/13/2003 8:39:10 PM PST by aught-6
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To: JeeperFreeper
RE #5

Japan has cruise missile technology.

30 posted on 02/13/2003 10:02:09 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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As everyone has been saying, Japan's military is not simply a self defense force. It is modern and relatively well equipped. Now if Japan and North Korea fought 1 vs 1 right now, North Korea could win, however if Japan chooses to build up, we would be a force to be feared. We have 130 million people, they have 20 million, we have a huge workforce and industry, they have only their communist soldiers and slaves. I have consistent contact with several in Japan, the general consensus, most who follow news understand this situation.
31 posted on 02/14/2003 4:31:59 PM PST by shigataganai
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To: Pokey78
You see! I told you all that was needed was patience and the solution would emerge

the emergance has begun.

South Korea and China are still to be heard from. When China speaks the discussion will be near an end and PRNC will calm down.

32 posted on 02/14/2003 4:35:37 PM PST by bert
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Japan now has the world's fastest computer, the Earth Simulator. It's five times as fast as the US's fastest, which is located at the Lawrence Livermore National Lab (LLNL).

The Earth Simulator was built to perform geophysical simulations in order to study phenomena such as global warming. However, I'm sure it could also be used for the sort of simulations they do on the machine at LLNL :).

33 posted on 02/14/2003 4:44:49 PM PST by cynwoody
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It's five times as fast as the US's fastest, which is located at the Lawrence Livermore National Lab (LLNL).

This is not really true. It is a special-purpose hardware computer, and can only do that one thing. This is why it isn't ranked as such in supercomputing benchmarks. The US computers are general purpose. And if made special-purpose with equivalent amount of resources, the US ones would still be faster. It is easy to build special-purpose computers that will outstrip the performance of a general-purpose computer at a single application, but they have very limited utility and most people prefer to use general purpose supercomputers that you can use for anything. There have been many, many cases where relatively trivial FPGA clusters and similar outstrip the performance of the fastest supercomputers for a specific application.

34 posted on 02/14/2003 5:08:19 PM PST by tortoise
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To: tortoise
Actually, what I wrote isn't quite true either. The problem is that the technical distinctions probably fall below the noise floor for the purposes of discussion here. On some supercomputing benchmarks, that architecture would do very poorly.
35 posted on 02/14/2003 5:13:32 PM PST by tortoise
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To: shigataganai
We have 130 million people, they have 20 million, we have a huge workforce and industry, they have only their communist soldiers and slaves. I have consistent contact with several in Japan, the general consensus, most who follow news understand this situation

Give them hell guys ..... Alliance for Liberty

36 posted on 02/14/2003 5:30:48 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: tortoise
It is a special-purpose hardware computer, and can only do that one thing.

True, but the thing the Earth Simulator is built to do is sufficiently similar to simulating nuclear explosions that the machine ought to come in handy, should the Japanese feel compelled to develop the capacity to roast the North Koreans.

There have been many, many cases where relatively trivial FPGA clusters and similar outstrip the performance of the fastest supercomputers for a specific application.

Also true, but unlike FPGA's, the Earth Simulator is a full computer. FPGA's are used to implement high performance hardware components to perform a specific computation operation. In order to be used, they need to be mated with a general purpose computer, which feeds them problems and retrieves their output.

37 posted on 02/15/2003 2:40:40 AM PST by cynwoody
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