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Pretty boys can think [Clooney says Bush ran away on 9/11]
The Guardian (UK) ^ | February 15, 2003 | Sally Vincent

Posted on 02/15/2003 7:09:24 AM PST by aculeus

If you're a hugely bankable Hollywood star, there are certain expectations of you. Maintain your profile, toe the line and keep schtum about politics. George Clooney, on the other hand, is hollering his disdain for his government and its dumb war plans, and he's directed his own, somewhat risky, film. Interview by Sally Vincent.

[Fanmag fluff snipped.]

"The question is," he goes on, "do we go on murdering each other, or are we going to take time out to ask ourselves why we're so angry in the first place? I get mad at someone, then I find out more about why they did what they did to make me mad, and the anger disperses. We get angry because we don't have enough information." His mousseline is now neatly stacked on the side of his plate. All tidied away.

"It's the head guys who really tick me off," he says. "You dumb down at the top, so what does that do to the bottom? Who's going to stand up for us now? I just want someone smart to stand up and shout, 'Bullsh**!' They tell us we're going to war and no one's saying 'Bullsh**' loud enough. And the language! Listen to the language! 'Evil.' 'Evil'? 'Nexus of evil'? 'Evil-doer'? That's my favourite, 'Evil-doer'! What's wrong with their vocabulary: couldn't they come up with 'schmuck'?"

This makes me laugh uncontrollably. I wonder if he'll mind if I gobble up his mousseline. "Look at us," he cries, "we're the guys who marched into France and liberated them, handing out stockings and chocolate. And we've slowly become all the things we fought against. How'd it happen?"

I feel the soul of America is at large. The words of Walt Whitman beat in my brain. "O Captain! My Captain!" I bleat. Clooney looks at me sideways. "We're so smart we don't even try to elect a leader. We elect someone to manage our country. Bush was elected, or sort of elected, on the issues of school vouchers and welfare reform. When the big one hit, we found we didn't have a leader at all. What did Bush do on 9/11? He ran away and hid. Even Reagan knew more about leadership than that, and he was as bad a symbol of America as I can think of, off-hand. But at least he's been in enough cowboy movies to know he had to come out and stand on top of the rubble and be seen shaking his fist or something. What has it all come down to? Selling things on television, is what. The three-second soundbite. We don't have any great speakers any more, we don't have great television any more, we don't have great films any more. Everything's knocked out by committee. That's how it is. How we deal with everything. That's politics. You turn on the TV for the news now and what do you get? 'Showdown in Iraq!' it goes, like it's a game. The news is a f***king game show. They're selling us a pre-emptive war and no one says, 'Bullsh**'. It's a conglomerate decision, all rounded off to make it palatable so we'll swallow it, believe it. But it's a lie. Of course it's a lie. We've been lying to ourselves since Vietnam. And if you say that, if you stand up and say no to the war in Iraq, immediately you're being 'unpatriotic'. But if you don't, if it's not you, who the f**k's it going to be?"

O Captain! My Captain! "It's not my place. I'm not a big, like, yogi guy, I'm just a stoopid film star. Stooooopid, goofball film star."

"Big guru guy," I say.

"Big guru guy," he says.

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1 posted on 02/15/2003 7:09:24 AM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus
Who even cares about this piece of garbage anymore? I vote for a ban of George Clooney articles on FR.
2 posted on 02/15/2003 7:11:37 AM PST by Mr.Clark
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To: aculeus
Hollywood Idiot.
3 posted on 02/15/2003 7:12:31 AM PST by Rocko
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To: aculeus
Clooney is an idiot and I hope his new movie tanks.

BTW, it's okay if you provide a source link when you're posting.

4 posted on 02/15/2003 7:13:08 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: aculeus
I get mad at someone, then I find out more about why they did what they did to make me mad, and the anger disperses.

George, these terrorists aren't mad at us, they are just following God's wishes to convert or kill us.

If you want to get along just submit to Islam. -Tom

5 posted on 02/15/2003 7:16:24 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Rocko
Hollywood Idiot.

A singularly useless idiot.

6 posted on 02/15/2003 7:16:45 AM PST by Publius Maximus
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To: aculeus
I think a reasonable case can be made against war, if one is seriously against the war, instead of being seriously against the person who happens to be the one in charge at this moment in history.

The fact that NOBODY is even trying to make that reasonable case actually worries me. This matter cannot be settled ad hominem. It's too important for that.

I also must add that if President Bush had not voluntarily bugged out, the Secret Service and Marine Corps guards would have picked him up and carried him there by force. They have their procedures and their plans, and their standing orders and don't think for a moment that they'd worry about court martials at that moment. You can survive a court martial; you can't survive a 767 landing on your President (and your self!)
7 posted on 02/15/2003 7:19:53 AM PST by ChemistCat (We should have had newer, safer, better, more efficient ships by now, damn it.)
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To: aculeus
Heh, this is a guy who's longest running and most meaningful relationship has been with a pot-bellied pig. Who is he to comment on the human condition???
8 posted on 02/15/2003 7:21:00 AM PST by PetiteMericco
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To: aculeus
People like this hate conservatism and traditionalism to the point that they're willing to take any angle they can against people who champion it. He doesn't have a clue what's going on in Iraq. He's just a fool, an arrogant fool.

9 posted on 02/15/2003 7:21:33 AM PST by No Dems 2004
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To: aculeus
"The question is," he goes on, "do we go on murdering each other, or are we going to take time out to ask ourselves why we're so angry in the first place? I get mad at someone, then I find out more about why they did what they did to make me mad, and the anger disperses. We get angry because we don't have enough information."

I wonder if this is how that little slimeball would have handled Adolf Hitler. These people are so stupid, I can't even believe it.

10 posted on 02/15/2003 7:22:03 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
His new movie did tank. "Solaris" was a sci-fi flop. As for the movie he directed, about Chuck Barris being a CIA spy, that one has crowds staying away in droves.
11 posted on 02/15/2003 7:22:45 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: aculeus
I think he has lost his sanity. I never did like him, so it will be no problem not to have him come on my TV, or go spend my hard earned money on his movies. I wish I could go face to face with him. People who do not have facts tend to show their stupidity in a hurry.
12 posted on 02/15/2003 7:22:53 AM PST by Jewels1091
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To: PetiteMericco
He's ignorant, crude, not that good of an actor, and as for handsome, well, he's no Mel Gibson! (from a female perspective)
13 posted on 02/15/2003 7:24:17 AM PST by NewCenturions
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To: Mr.Clark
Why? It's good to expose the Hollywood Idiots, I do so myself. Let people know the idiots they support when purchasing a movie ticket. I am a movie buff, so I want to know where NOT to spend my money. Expose them..I say!

Respectfully
f_t_d
14 posted on 02/15/2003 7:25:43 AM PST by fight_truth_decay (Occupied)
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To: aculeus
Well George, how do you think you got the freedom to say all those things in the first place?
15 posted on 02/15/2003 7:26:42 AM PST by DB ()
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To: aculeus
George might wander in to his local Blockbuster and see if he can take 3 steps without seeing some kind of gun or weapon on the cover of the films that are available. Try it yourself Freepers, you can't walk three paces in a video store without see violence depicted, promoted and sold by Hollywood.

All this is their right, of course. But when people like Clooney make major bucks by selling violence their insipid banter against violence falls on deaf ears here.

16 posted on 02/15/2003 7:27:42 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: Ciexyz
His new movie did tank. "Solaris" was a sci-fi flop. As for the movie he directed, about Chuck Barris being a CIA spy, that one has crowds staying away in droves.

Last night - I believe that it was on O'Reilly - a drama critic was talking about the negative effect that people like Clooney and Sean Penn are having on their own careers. He also mentioned Jane Fonda and Barbra Streisand. He could also have mentioned Ed Asner, whose career has been in the toilet for years for his pro-communist stances.

Penn apparently had a verbal agreement for something like $10 million to do a movie and after he went to Iraq the offer was withdrawn. He's now suing - and will probably lose.

17 posted on 02/15/2003 7:28:50 AM PST by jackbill
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To: aculeus
I get mad at someone, then I find out more about why they did what they did to make me mad, and the anger disperses.

We are facing people who got mad at us and decided to destroy two buildings in New York, another in Washington, D.C., and another that they weren't able to reach. The only thing that has "dispersed" is the dust cloud left by the fall of those buildings. Actually, they've been destroying our planes and buildings for over twenty years. They are trash and scum, and Clooney wouldn't have the freedom to spout his nonsense if there weren't people willing to use force to fight these people. Clooney certainly has the right to say what he's saying, but a country that is worthy to keep its liberty will be made of people who recognize that Clooney is stupid.

Texas Wasn't Kuwait
Bill

18 posted on 02/15/2003 7:28:51 AM PST by WFTR
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To: aculeus
I can't resist a "Loony Clooney' thread...

Clooney: "I'm not a big, like, yogi guy, I'm just a stoopid film star. Stooooopid, goofball film star."

Give the guy credit -- at least he admits to having the IQ of a stalk of celery.

19 posted on 02/15/2003 7:29:12 AM PST by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of self-loathing anti-Americanism and sedition)
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To: isthisnickcool
I'm only vaguely aware of who he is; I didn't know what movies he's made. I once liked Barbra Streisand and I once liked Cher. So, I suppose, I can relate to anyone who can't stand this guy "any more."
20 posted on 02/15/2003 7:30:11 AM PST by ChemistCat (We should have had newer, safer, better, more efficient ships by now, damn it.)
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