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The marchers are doing Saddam's work for him
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | February 16, 2003 | David Pryce-Jones

Posted on 02/15/2003 4:08:49 PM PST by MadIvan

Ignorance, fear and lack of respect for Arabs - these were the most obvious traits on display in yesterday's demonstration against a war in Iraq. Could so many people really think that it is better to leave Iraqis under Saddam Hussein's vicious tyranny than to liberate them from it?

Their protests suggest that it is not worth risking anything at all to free Arabs. To risk spilling a single drop of blood to liberate Iraq would be futile - not merely because it would be "destabilising" or "kill children", but because the Arabs have no capacity for "Western" freedom anyway. Behind the demonstrators' slogans lies the assumption that Arabs should be left alone: they don't mind being brutalised, tortured and murdered by a fascist thug like Saddam. Where they come from, it is the natural order of things.

That line of thought is nonsense. More than that - it is racist nonsense. No one knows better than the Arabs the horror of being oppressed. No one knows better than they that tyrannical oppression is all that they will get so long as Saddam and his family are in power. Saddam's despotism is not a denial of "Western" freedom: it's a denial of the freedom that every person needs to be able to live a worthwhile life. To imagine that the Iraqis don't want to be freed, or are not entitled to it, is simply to suppose that they are less human than us.

It is shocking to discover how deep lies the prejudice against Arabs being able to enjoy freedom. It is to be found in some surprising places other than the demonstration in Hyde Park: the CIA, for example, and the US State Department have long taken the view that Iraq is so tribal and retrograde a country that only a brutal dictator like Saddam could control it.

For them, the problem with Saddam is not that he is a murderous, tyrannical son of a bitch. It is that he isn't any longer our murderous, tyrannical son of a bitch. They had to be persuaded by the supposedly militaristic Donald Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary, and the Pentagon, to give democracy in Iraq its chance. Ahmad Chalabi of the Iraqi National Congress and other exiles are now preparing to take over. Kanan Makiya, one of the most brilliant among them, has been drafting a new constitution for sharing power among Iraq's disparate elements. Since they cannot liberate themselves, others have to do it for them. That is the point of our invasion.

What is more depressing than the ignorance and fear of yesterday's demonstrators, or even than the prejudice of the State Department, is the opposition to the liberation of Iraq voiced by some of Britain's most distinguished public servants. Sir John Killick, a former ambassador to the USSR, Sir Andrew Green, recently retired as ambassador to Saudi Arabia, Sir Timothy Garden, a former air marshal, and General Sir Michael Rose, have all come out against an invasion. These men must know that the effect of not going to war will be to prolong the rule of Saddam. They nevertheless oppose any attempt to topple him because, they say, the consequences will be dire. There will be untold numbers of casualties, and there will be "explosive instability" in the Arab world.

Their claims simply do not stand up. Before the last Gulf war, there were many similar predictions of doom and disaster. In the event, the number of casualties on the allied side was less than 200. Half of those were victims of friendly fire. The number of deaths on the Iraqi side was certainly much greater, but even so, the numbers have been greatly exaggerated. This time, Iraq is much weaker after 10 years of sanctions than it was in 1991. American technology is much better: laser-guided bombs are now more accurate and will form a higher percentage of the ordnance. Saddam has no air force of any significance. It means that the moment his troops come out of their bunkers, they will be destroyed by the coalition. As a result, we can be pretty confident that they will not come out.

It is unlikely that the war in Iraq will consist only of a land invasion. Rather, teams of special forces will be used to seize and secure strategic positions, such as the oilfields and the dams on the Tigris and Euphrates, so that they can be protected from any attempt to blow them up. If this can be done quickly, there may well be no civilian casualties at all: the regime may simply implode, leaving Saddam to the fate of Ceaucescu - a dictator barking orders that no one obeys. Saddam is known to be highly conscious of that possibility. According to defectors he keeps a tape of the toppling and execution of Ceaucescu and watches it regularly.

Far from leading to an "explosion" in the Arab world, the removal of Saddam would do much to encourage stability in the Middle East. Baghdad would cease to be a haven for terrorists, particularly the Palestinian suicide bombers whom Saddam has subsidised. The majority of Arabs long to see Saddam removed. A number of Arab governments are tyrannies only marginally less brutal than that of Saddam Hussein. They view his removal with anxiety, for they know the precedent it will set: if a democratic Iraq flourishes, it will be an inspiration to - among others - the peoples of Saudi Arabia, Syria and Egypt. It will encourage all of them to get rid of the corrupt dictators who have oppressed, stultified and impoverished their countries - just as the fall of the Berlin Wall encouraged the whole of eastern Europe to replace tyranny with democracy and socialism with private enterprise.

When he was in Rome recently, Barham Salih, the Prime Minister of Kurdish Iraq, said that he saw around him a parliamentary democracy in a country liberated by America from the fascist Mussolini. So it would be with Saddam. Salih's implication that a democratic, prosperous Iraq is the most likely outcome of an American invasion is absolutely right. It is a testament to the power of ignorance and prejudice that so many people in Britain cannot see it. Anyone looking for evidence of the decline of this country's moral and intellectual authority will find it in the thoughtless stampede with which the peace party has assembled.

David Pryce-Jones is the author of The Closed Circle: an interpretation of the Arabs and is senior editor with National Review.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blair; blix; bush; iraq; peaceniks; saddam; uk; un; us
Don't forget the anti-war left is inherently racist - they do not believe anyone darker skinned than George W. Bush is capable of being diabolical. They also do not believe that the Arabs are capable of maintaining a democracy, as this article argues. Basically the left, condescendingly, believes it's better they die the slow grinding death under Saddam's boot heel, rather than ever be free.

And they call us "fascists"?

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 02/15/2003 4:08:49 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Clive; NYC GOP Chick; Blue Scourge; PhiKapMom; carl in alaska; Cautor; GOP_Lady; prairiebreeze; ...
Bump!
2 posted on 02/15/2003 4:09:04 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
EUROPEAN ARROGANCE IS LIMITLESS!!
3 posted on 02/15/2003 4:12:30 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: MadIvan
David Price Jones wrote this classic: The Closed Circle: An Interpretation of the Arabs
by David Pryce-Jones


4 posted on 02/15/2003 4:18:29 PM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: MadIvan
If Saddam had been a right-wing puppet, installed by The United States, the Peaceniks would be picketing outside the White House demanding his removal.
5 posted on 02/15/2003 4:19:44 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: MadIvan
The Islamo facists and the marxist international socialitsts and the third way EuroUnion/national socialists/4th Reich have much in common...imo

As much so as the 3rd Riech had in common with the Islamo/Facists/immans & mullahs of the 30s and 40s....

These Anti-western Anti-Americans are Anti-Christian & Anti Semetic...and want to force us into the global domination of the UN dominated by the Euro Union

The Chi-Coms and Soviets would also love to see us de-clawed de-fanged and de-nutted
Not to mention the liberals of the media, university, whorlywood, & the socialists that permeate our institutions..as would every PissAnt nation who would have an equal vote...to throw in against us robbing us of our national sovereignty..

Global Democracy at it's finest

If Bush does not prevail...and leaves a legacy of Homeland security to Hillary...we will know life as the ancient prophet Elijah and the Hebrews knew it under Jezebel who also worship Baal...

For that matter, imo, we are practically in the throes of Baal worship in our nation as it is....
We are, imo ,down to the wire...we live in 'interesting' times...
6 posted on 02/15/2003 4:21:52 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: MadIvan
Don't forget the anti-war left is inherently racist

You got it! Racist - and condescending (which is the actual face of racism in the modern world).

7 posted on 02/15/2003 4:24:03 PM PST by livius
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To: MadIvan
Just some opinions.
Sean Hannity has a “man in the street”, interview segment every Thursday. He sends flirty Flipper out there. And she finds someone to talk to Sean. After polite intros , the first question he ask them is “Who is the president of the United States? 90% get it right The next question he ask is ,“Who is the vice-present of the United State?”. Over 90% don’t know. Also all of them, who don’t know ,were declared Democrats. This even happen during the presidential election, declared Democrats didn’t know that the vice-president ,under Clinton, was Al Gore. They were going to vote for him anyway because he was a democratic. There was one young man that thought Dan Quayle was the vice-president under Clinton and was going to vote for him, you have to hear it to believe it. The obvious question is, ”Don’t they watch the news?”
I write this because I question the motives for why most of the protester are there. How many couldn’t tell you who the vice-president is yet, they can tell us we shouldn’t go to war against Iraq. From what I have seen on TV most can’t, all they can do is give slogans as their answer. Are they left-wing drone in training or it’s because it’s the hip thing to do? Outside the hard core groups I don’t think most understand the ramifications of this war and the war on terrorism. Wisdom is not the forte of most youth (I know because I was one myself) but this is ridicules. On the talk radio shows, when anti-war people call-in, their statements are slogans and vicious name calling. I get the feeling I’m at a bar listening to drunks. (I’ll take another Jack. And watch the marching morons. I wouldn't be surprise if some of them grow up and become neo-cons. I knew many radicals from the 60's and 70's who did just that. Once they got a job and had children.

8 posted on 02/15/2003 4:29:36 PM PST by Emeraldgold
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To: MadIvan
Bump.
9 posted on 02/15/2003 4:34:51 PM PST by Rocko
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To: Emeraldgold
Welcome to FR. The electorate is most certainly capable of electing another Clinton. It's not the 1/4 of R's and the 1/4 of D's who vote, it's the 1/2 in the mushy middle who can easily be swayed by such sappy approaches as the Al-Tipper-smackdown-kiss at convention. It's frightening and requires constant exposure of the Left at every turn. The folks in the middle need to be made to feel too embarrassed to vote for such lying, sleazy, con men/women.
10 posted on 02/15/2003 4:57:48 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: MadIvan
They also do not believe that the Arabs are capable of maintaining a democracy, as this article argues. Basically the left, condescendingly, believes it's better they die the slow grinding death under Saddam's boot heel, rather than ever be free. And they call us "fascists"?

One of the most recent anti-war letters to my local paper accused the US of trying to impose democracy on the Arabs of the Middle East, who have chosen autocratic leaders for thousands of years. These people are not only racist, they are stupid enough (or pretned to be stupid enough) to believe that the Arabs chose the tyrants they suffer under and could change their minds tomorrow if they wanted to. Stupid is as stupid does.

11 posted on 02/15/2003 5:23:15 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Free Iraq!)
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To: MadIvan
Gee, your leftist sound as racist and condensending as our leftist!
12 posted on 02/15/2003 5:47:02 PM PST by Leto
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To: MadIvan
A perfect example of mob mentality. Rally 'round the cause, folks. Don't think, you don't need to think. We'll do the thinking for you, and you can carry a sign, and chant and scream and spit on flags, and have a jolly ole time. The feeling of power is euphoric !!

Wouldn't Herr Goebbels be proud?
13 posted on 02/15/2003 6:21:28 PM PST by baseballmom
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To: MadIvan
...the anti-war left is inherently racist....

It is much worse than that. The Left, having abandoned Christianity and the God of Truth, would now also throw over Freedom that they might be slaves to the delusions of their man-made ideology.
14 posted on 02/15/2003 7:03:13 PM PST by houstonian
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To: MadIvan
I think Hitler put it best when he termed the phrase "Useful Idiots" Let them squack it's their right.

Just remember we all have friends and families overseas fighting for our security.

Keep the faith and vote for freedom. Let the socialists yell; The louder they get they more they expose themselves.

15 posted on 02/15/2003 9:07:40 PM PST by Rev. Lou Chenary
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To: anniegetyourgun
Thank-you for the welcome.
16 posted on 02/16/2003 9:17:09 AM PST by Emeraldgold
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