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To: MadIvan
Should treaty violations be so easily overlooked?

Humm -- let's see. N. Korea is building nukes and Iran is about to. Yep, makes perfectly good sense to me that we need to disarm Iraq by going to war. It's about OIL and not about weapons or liberation. GW is desperate for war because of the economy, not any threat from Iraq.

Richard W.

132 posted on 02/16/2003 9:51:38 AM PST by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: arete
Humm -- let's see. N. Korea is building nukes and Iran is about to.

I see, because the order in which George W. Bush does things offends you personally, that we have to stop action in Iraq. I'm sure President Bush will take it to heart next time and give you a call the next time he's planning anything.

How much is Saddam paying you for peddling this piffle? Whatever it is, it's not enough.

And you have zero proof that George Bush has planned this for the sake of the economy. Of course, saying that economics drives everything is a Marxist point of view, unsurprising you should put it forward.

Ivan

134 posted on 02/16/2003 9:55:03 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: arete

Marxists and other materialists always think that there is a material-based reason to all actions, and never a values-based reason. Take your drivel back to D.U./Lewser/Pravda-Raimundo/LP/Greens.

136 posted on 02/16/2003 9:56:52 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: arete
What is the underlying cause of the Al Quaida movement? The American military presence in Saudi Arabia.

Why have our troops been there since 1990? Saddam Hussein (he is at least why the Saudi government asked us in and has asked us to stay).

Why were we attacked in 1993, 1995, 1999, 2000, and 2001? Mainly to force us out of Saudi Arabia. If you troule yourself to read what these maniacs say, you'll find I'm right.

In order to be able to pull out of Saudi Arabia, what must change? Saddam and his government have to go.

Will you ever hear the American government explain things in this way? No, and the reason is to do so would be taken as a sign of weakness, i.e. giving the terrorists what they want.

What we are going to do in Iraq has little if anything to do with oil and everything to do with a much larger picture, that is how do we defuse, destroy, defund, and remove the reason for being of the Islamic terrorist movement that is intent on causing World War III. If that problem can be defused, we will be able to devote full attention and resources to the other great threat, North Korea and, more importantly, their puppet masters in Beijing.

My main conclusion is that the last person I'd ever want to see opposite me at a poker table is Mr. George W. Bush.

148 posted on 02/16/2003 10:14:05 AM PST by katana
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