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To: knak
>>There's an article that just came out called "Schroder is hiding the truth" in the WSJ. I don't have subscription.

Nope nothing in the Journal....where'd you get the lead?

I did find this however

"All together, we Germans, who were able to rebuild after two world wars and to find peace and self-confidence with the help and solidarity of our American friends and partners, now have an opportunity to pay them back. That means, and I say this unmistakably, participation in military operations for the defense of freedom and human rights, expressly for the establishment of stability and security."

Schroder--- right after September 11.
51 posted on 02/17/2003 4:32:39 PM PST by The Raven (Liberalism: The dream world called denial)
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To: The Raven
Schröder is more like the devil than I ever imagined.
53 posted on 02/17/2003 4:39:54 PM PST by Siobhan († Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet †)
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To: The Raven
Assume Iraq feels that war is inevitable. What would a rational enemy be doing right now? Where does Germany feel it stands? By it's political posturing with France, they (Germany France) have cost the US Billions and are putting our soldiers at risk. If you think for a second that Iraq is NOT trying to get ready and is not trying to gain time to prepare defenses, you’re a fool. Our Allies, who like to point out how self-serving and arrogant we are, where are they? And why? Well, I think this is a good time to thank our selfless allies who we can depend on for their assistance in allowing our enemies more time to build defenses, train, and equip themselves.

NEW PARAGRAPH

It is always a good feeling to know that countries such as Germany who screams and yells about the bad Israelis, the bad US, and of course their stooges (anyone who agrees with us), that it is these countries that have troops in Sinai right now (Multinational Peace & Observation Force), had 180+ people die in a bomb blast in Lebanon (a peace keeping mission, no invasion, no occupation), Had soldiers die in Kobar Towers Saudi Arabia, USS Cole, contained Iraq for the last 12 years or even just were the ones fighting them back out of Kuwait. The Germans are very big mouthed with other people’s money, other people’s soldiers. They have just about zero involvement in the region but surely like to throw their weight around in the UN, of course NOT for selfish reasons. We pay, they talk, and after the fact, they see themselves as victims.

NEW PARAGRAPH

You guys have got to hear this. The Germans are actually talking about how we armed Saddam and trained Osama bla bla bla. So now a French built nuclear power plant (bombed by Israel), T-55/62/72, AT-3, RPG-7, Mirage (French), Exocet (European), Roland (European), Chemicals supplied by Hoechst (Germany), Bunkers built by Phillip Holtzman (Germany), Milan (European), Mi-8/24, AK-47 knock offs, Druganov knock offs, PRK knock offs, Scuds, 82mm mortars (Russian), SA-7, SA-2, ZSU 23-4, 2S1s etcetera are US? I just about fell over when I read that we were supposedly the big arms dealers of Iraq in the 80s. We are supplying Iraq guys. They use European, Russian, Chinese equipment almost EXCLUSIVLY and I read in a German paper about our arms sales to Iraq. But you see, it all happened a long time ago, and was secretJ the CIA or NSA did it. That’s why they use only Soviet style or European equipment, they’re hiding our stuff you see. It is an interesting mix of deliberate propaganda, anti-Americanism and ignorance that is propagated over here.

Red6
103 posted on 02/20/2003 6:14:40 AM PST by Red6
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