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Didn't CHB used to be a conservative site? I thought the forum was a couple of years ago. What happened?
1 posted on 02/21/2003 6:25:54 PM PST by Spidey
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Now he [Dubya] seems hellbent on destroying the Constitution and, along with it, the Bill of Rights

Typical....This moron doesn't even give one example to back up his ridiculous argument.

2 posted on 02/21/2003 6:30:17 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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Last week, Bush said he didn’t care if a majority of Americans thought he should wait and let the United Nations finish its work before invading Iraq

What exactly constitutes a majority? A herd of the great unwashed masses? I'd say a majority would be those who did not take part in the joke that was an anti-Bush march.

3 posted on 02/21/2003 6:32:00 PM PST by ThinkingMan (Maybe someday I can ride in one of those black helicopters!)
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The guy is an idiot who thinks that the United States was founded as a democracy.

That disqualifies him as a thoughtful conservative, IMO.

5 posted on 02/21/2003 6:34:06 PM PST by the_doc
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“Sometimes you have to ignore popular opinion and do what’s right,” Bush said in a speech to a group of cheering veterans. “The President must govern, not be governed.”

Say what? Excuse me, King George, but this country was founded on the belief of “government of the people, by the people and for the people.”

Bush is correct, the author is not.

We have representation in Congress that has authorized any actions President Bush makes, for starters.

It sounds like the author is advocating leadership by gauging poll numbers. (And even that doesn't support Thompson's point since a majority in polls support the President's position on Iraq.)

7 posted on 02/21/2003 6:34:21 PM PST by cyncooper (God Be With President Bush)
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Clueless at CHB. Veru sneaky writer ... inveigles with the first sentences, then salavates slamming his favorite focal point for his bitterness that Al Goron isn't president.
8 posted on 02/21/2003 6:34:50 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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Everyone agrees Saddam is bad news.... and everybody knows bad news does not improve with age. Sombody must have pissed on Doug's cornflakes today.
9 posted on 02/21/2003 6:36:49 PM PST by kylaka
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I guess we can put him in the 'no' pile.


13 posted on 02/21/2003 6:44:31 PM PST by Nick Danger (Freeps Ahoy! Caribbean cruise May 31... from $610 http://www.freeper.org)
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Why do you have such a pair of big brass balls when it comes to Iraq, which hasn’t developed nukes (but probably will one day) but turn into a wimp when it comes to be much more pressing threat from North Korea?

I've noticed this common tactic in debates, particularly from the left. "Your approach won't solve all of our problems, so why try it?" is the basic theme. Should we get rid of cops since they don't completely eliminate crime? Or since washing my underwear doesn't dry clean my suits, why wash it? A completely nonsensical argument.

15 posted on 02/21/2003 6:48:01 PM PST by John Jorsett
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I forget what put a bee in Thompson's bonnet, but he's been batting at it since at least 2000. He's yet another dim-witted Pubie who seems to think that we'd be better off with Algore in office.

(As I recall, it was one of those Bush-isn't-conservative-enough-so-let's-put-the-Commie'-in-office kind of arguments.)
16 posted on 02/21/2003 6:49:06 PM PST by Redcloak (And now for something completely different...)
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The author is a twit.

There's a very compelling breakdown of the world's security situation in this month's Esquire. We clearly do have a need to take out Iraq -- the author of this article is an advisor to DoD.

17 posted on 02/21/2003 6:51:14 PM PST by AlaninSA
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Sounds like this idiot would be happy if 'put your finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowin' Clinton was in office. Obviously this guy doesn't have the foggiest idea about LEADERSHIP.
18 posted on 02/21/2003 6:53:59 PM PST by PISANO
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The rant doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. Perhaps the author was inebriated at the time. It really isn't work spending anytime refuting because the piece is self refuting. We move from mistatements of popular sentiment to Bush saying he won't follow popular sentiment (which he is following), to somehow that failing to follow popular sentiment is akin to King George and traduces the Constitution, to Bush is a madman trying to turn the US in to a police state, to Bush doesn't care about North Korea. Whatever.
20 posted on 02/21/2003 6:59:46 PM PST by Torie
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"Why do you have such a pair of big brass balls when it comes to Iraq, which hasn't developed nukes (but probably will one day) but turn into a wimp when it comes to be much more pressing threat from North Korea?"

I suspect Mr Thompson doesn't give two turds that NK has nukes. He uses it as a straw dog to attack Bush on Iraq.

If and when Bush shifts his attention to this other axis of evil, I hope Thompson's words are shoved back down his throat as he furiously back pedals and accuses Bush of again being too warlike dealing with North Korea.

And he will.

21 posted on 02/21/2003 7:02:12 PM PST by spectre
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Where was the BARF ALERT on this. I nearly puked up my buttered popcorn reading this garbage.
22 posted on 02/21/2003 7:09:20 PM PST by Rick Boggs
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so what happened to the "Barf alert" ?
23 posted on 02/21/2003 7:13:11 PM PST by AgThorn
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This article has the reaking stench of hitlery all over it.
24 posted on 02/21/2003 7:13:27 PM PST by Monty22
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>>“Sometimes you have to ignore popular opinion and do 
>>what’s right,” Bush said in a speech to a group of 
>>cheering veterans. “The President must govern, not be 
>>governed.” 
>>
>>Say what? Excuse me, King George, but this country was 
>>founded on the belief of “government of the people, by 
>>the people and for the people.” 

We're not an absolute democracy. Hell, we're not even a democracy. But, that's beside the point. The point is that real leaders LEAD. It takes gutless wonders like Clinton to follow "public opinion" rather than do what they believe is Right.

27 posted on 02/21/2003 7:31:49 PM PST by LiberalBuster
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This poor b***ard apparenlty sincerely believes the constitution provides for a direct democracy and laments the good old days when presidents governed through daily polling.

Didn't we pass a law resricting the first admendment rights of these type of individuals after Clinton left office?

28 posted on 02/21/2003 7:38:59 PM PST by Amerigomag
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What a load of horsehockey this guy's thoughts are.......
29 posted on 02/21/2003 7:43:20 PM PST by yooper
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Perhaps Mr. Thompson is not aware that all polls currently show a solid majority of Americans supportive of a unilateral attack to disarm Saddam.
37 posted on 02/21/2003 8:09:38 PM PST by The Iguana
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