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Didn't CHB used to be a conservative site? I thought the forum was a couple of years ago. What happened?
1 posted on 02/21/2003 6:25:54 PM PST by Spidey
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"And while you’re so preoccupied with getting Saddam Hussein and turning America into a police state, what are you doing about North Korea and its nuclear weapons program? "

He will get to N.Korea, as soon as he finishes off Saddam. Then you will be bitchin about that.

50 posted on 02/21/2003 8:37:59 PM PST by auggy
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The majority of Americans? The majority of Americans? We're only hearing from those who have the least to say! There's a lot more than them out there who stand behind our President and WILL SEE SADAAM GO DOWN if we go to war!!! God bless George W. Bush and long live the United States of America! PERIOD!!!!
51 posted on 02/21/2003 8:40:28 PM PST by cubreporter
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I thought so too ... this guy is a muckraker type ... here is a more conservative-friendly "rant" ragging ont he Dems for their whiny self-indulgent behavior ...

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_1215.shtml

His rant about Bush just strings together some 'warmonger' stereotypes, that are simply WRONG. We waited 12 years of sanctions, and 12 months of jawboning on Iraq, along with 12 weeks of inspections. ... but you only need to study Iraq history for 21 minutes to know that the ONLY way Iraq will get disarmed is through FORCE. That is not 'warmongering' it is realism.

Bush has been firm but patient.
60 posted on 02/21/2003 9:21:05 PM PST by WOSG
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Okay, Doug. You wrote: Last week, Bush said he didn’t care if a majority of Americans thought he should wait and let the United Nations finish its work before invading Iraq. “Sometimes you have to ignore popular opinion and do what’s right,” Bush said in a speech to a group of cheering veterans. “The President must govern, not be governed.” Say what? Excuse me, King George, but this country was founded on the belief of “government of the people, by the people and for the people".

You do not know what you are talking about. This nation was founded on the belief that a representative government, with representatives chosen by the people in elections, was the best form of government - not what a majority of the people believed at any particular time. The whims of the people are too, well, whimisical for stable governing. The phrase, “government of the people, by the people and for the people", was not from the Founders, but was an invention of Abraham Lincoln, the man who rivaled FDR in his disrespect for the Constitution.

You wrote, Taking that Oath of Office didn’t suddenly endow you with great intellect or the ability to ignore the voice of the people you are supposed to represent. As I recall, your grade point average in school wasn’t that hot anyway.

Again, you do not know what you are talking about. President Bush's SAT score was 1206, and his GPA in college, was average (not below average). His low score was a 70 in Sociology. Al Gore had a similar "average" GPA in college, with a low score of D in natural science. But "in his sophomore year at Harvard", the Washington Post reported, "Gore's grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale". Gore did not obtain a graduate degree: neither from Vanderbilt Divinity School, nor from Vanderbilt Law School (which some in the press believe). He made 5 F's in 8 classes at the divinity school. President Bush, on the other hand, obtained an MBA from one of the most respected business graduate schools in the world: Harvard. He also has the distinction of being the first president with an MBA.

BTW, where did you get your bogus information? The Democratic Underground? You might consider getting your "history" on George Bush from more credible sources, for example, this one:

     "This guy is very smart," said Lanny J. Davis, a former special counsel to President Clinton and a supporter of Al Gore, as well as a fraternity brother of Mr. Bush at Yale. "This notion of lightness is totally missing the point. There are many smart people, intellectually smart as well as street smart, who don't have the energy or motivation at times to act smart, but that doesn't mean they're not smart. There are times when George coasted through Yale courses or through exams or seemed overly facetious. But don't mistake that for not being intellectually acute. "My memory of George -- and I've no reason to say nice things about him, because I hope he loses -- is that he was an astute observer of people and had an incredible talent for getting along with people," Mr. Davis said. "I tell my fellow Democrats not to underestimate him."

You wrote, And while you’re so preoccupied with getting Saddam Hussein and turning America into a police state, what are you doing about North Korea and its nuclear weapons program? Talking? Just talking? They are close to having the capability to deliver nukes to the West Coast and all you want to do there is talk? Why do you have such a pair of big brass balls when it comes to Iraq, which hasn’t developed nukes (but probably will one day) but turn into a wimp when it comes to be much more pressing threat from North Korea?

Let me see if I got this straight. You think we should ignore Iraq and concentrate on North Korea (that is, try to clean up Clinton's and Carter's mess in North Korea). Then maybe, soon, we might have two rogue nations (Iraq and North Korea) with nukes. Wow! Why didn't President Bush think of that? And, of course, if we ignore the fact that we are in immediate danger from terrorists, and eliminate domestic wire-tapping of immigrants and beligerents, and allow enemy combatants to go through our grand jury process (like Clinton did), then what? Terrorists within our borders might change their mind about attacking our citizens?

You wrote, "Saddam Hussein may not be the only madman who threatens a place called America."

That is true. Doug Thompson is still free.

62 posted on 02/21/2003 9:24:05 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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George saying it doesn’t matter what the majority of Americans want because, by God, he’s in charge and he will do whatever he damn well pleases.

Source please, Mr. Thompson.

66 posted on 02/21/2003 9:44:33 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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First of all I support the President in this mad and chaotic world we are all for the time being forced to live in. Even if some including myself feel things could be much better the former alternative still remains unthinkable had the election gone the other way.

The American People unfortunately are so totally confused on the facts of how we are governed as a Nation, and its no wonder they remain mis-directed and off course. Benjamin Franklin was asked after a meeting by a colonial Patriot, what kind of Government we were to have and he replied a "Republic, If you can Keep It". The Lexicon of this Nation has been attacked without mercy ever since that time. One of the things that concern me as a Conservative; not necessarilly a compassionate one, is this. What Franklin stated back then has not changed; on the books we are still structured as a Free & Independent REPUBLIC! The progression of Presidents since then have determined to change the National Lexicon of us being a REPUBLIC, into a (democracy). My non capitalization of the word democracy is intentionally gramatically incorrect to point out the premise of this article. One of the most disparaging attributes of our current President is his continued abuse of the Lexicon pertaining to calling this Nation a (democracy) instead of correctly identifying us as a REPUBLIC instead. This is a intentional deception, targeting the American people by the socialist minions who are bent on destroying America and what is stands for! Many un-suspecting good intentioned people miss the importance of making the distinction between the two philosophies involved here. I hope once and for all this difference can finally be clearly understood. A democracy is a political system that is essentially "MOB RULED" by the passion of the people not dedicated to even a set of democratic principles that serve all the people all the time! On the other hand a Republic, governed by duly elected Representatives that are accountable to the people who elected them is what the Founding Fathers Of America Originally had in mind. In a democracy anything resembeling a "Bill Of Rights" guaranteed by the Constitution would be scrapped and thrown out! It is essential that you understand what the prize is in all this is. It is the destruction of the Constitution and The Bill Of Rights! Is It any wonder that ANARCHISTS love the principles of a democracy that frees them up to subvert and destroy our Freedoms? A Constitutional Republic which is our true form of Government; operates on the principles Of "The Rule Of Law", that is a series of checks and balances that keeps the socialist Barbarians at bay! I have told you plainly and clearly what is at stake here, ignore it and you leave Freedom and Liberty hanging in the balance Once they succeed in doing this, you will be hanging in their place! Jehovah Bless and preserve America!

69 posted on 02/22/2003 7:25:14 AM PST by wharfrat
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All that weight on his massive frame must be cutting off the blood flow to Thompson's brain.

His columns lately have been nothing but ad hominems.

71 posted on 02/22/2003 7:35:18 AM PST by sinkspur
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Now, 227 years later, we’ve got another madman named George saying it doesn’t matter what the majority of Americans want because, by God, he’s in charge and he will do whatever he damn well pleases.

News flash for Doug the Genius: We don't live in a single issue world. Sometimes majorities on narrowly defined issues conflict.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that a majority of a sample of Americans agrees with a narrowly worded question about going to war with Iraq without an additional U.N. resolution. Guess what else, Doug, if you asked whether America should protect herself from further attackes from terrorists, you'd find an overwhelming majority in agreement. Now what? Resolving conflicts and taking action are things a President is elected to do.

Next time Doug, do try to make some sense.

72 posted on 02/22/2003 8:11:57 AM PST by laredo44
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Spidey, it is government for the people, by the people. That statement means that the citizens of the US govern their government. Not the people of the UN, not the people of France, and not the people of Germany. They were not attacked, we were. Iraq surrendered to us 12 years ago, and that surrender came with conditions. Those conditions have not been met. Just because our last President did not enforce those conditions does not mean that this one shouldn't.

As for this President being selected by the Supreme Court ... cut that crap out. Bush won the count, he won the re-count, and he won the re-re-count. The Supreme Court simply told the Florida Supreme Court that they were not allowed (as a state) to break their own election laws.

74 posted on 02/22/2003 8:45:28 AM PST by LandofLincoln
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Spidey, it is government for the people, by the people. That statement means that the citizens of the US govern their government. Not the people of the UN, not the people of France, and not the people of Germany. They were not attacked, we were. Iraq surrendered to us 12 years ago, and that surrender came with conditions. Those conditions have not been met. Just because our last President did not enforce those conditions does not mean that this one shouldn't.

As for this President being selected by the Supreme Court ... cut that crap out. Bush won the count, he won the re-count, and he won the re-re-count. The Supreme Court simply told the Florida Supreme Court that they were not allowed (as a state) to break their own election laws.

75 posted on 02/22/2003 8:46:15 AM PST by LandofLincoln
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Probably is a trash Lib.

Saddam Hussein may not be the only madman who threatens a place called America.

and what kind of excrement is this?

84 posted on 03/27/2003 2:44:03 PM PST by lavaroise
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The madman of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

Dear Doofus Doug: Clinton is no longer at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
85 posted on 03/27/2003 2:47:59 PM PST by aruanan
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bump
93 posted on 07/12/2003 5:11:16 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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