Posted on 02/24/2003 1:25:18 PM PST by Remedy
In retrospect, I was one more cup o' coffee away from making sense ;-)
I've never had the death to be alive. Never had the height to be short. Never had the fat to be thin.
On the other hand, we can see in our world today that "things" do not self-order into higher levels of non-equilibrium...except under guidance of a mind.
Other than man-made things, which are not the issue, give us your one best example of such a high-level thing.
If evolution happened, from molecules to man, it did not hapeen by accident. Haven't you seen the math?
I've seen math which purports to demonstrate this, but nothing that even comes close to being persuasive. Spare us a gigantic post. Just link to the website where you think such math can be found. However, to save you the bother of posting a link to one of the usual creationist websites, I'll tell you right up front that someone's estimate of the alleged odds against a living cell somehow flying together from randomly scattered atoms is so far removed from the subject at hand that it's not worth our attention.
A joke from a jokester. How informative.
Or he's decided you are. I know which option is more likely from my worldview.
From your handle I would surmise that your "Worldview" would be infested with deceit, hatred and darkness. Doesn't really sound like a hot bed for science and truth. Let me remind you, though, Ichy is the one who first shot off this little missive:
Because that's what the copious evidence indicates happened, because every prediction of evolution which has been put to the test has been confirmed, and because I've done numerous evolutionary algorithms and they've performed spectacularly well in exactly the way that creationists claim is impossible. As further confirmation, over the past thirty years I've examined every creationist attempt to poke a hole in the theory and found that in every single case the argument failed because the creationists making the proposal were a) ignorant, b) idiots, or c) dishonest (or some combination thereof). Okay, that's not *entirely* fair (just mostly) -- on very, very rare occasions I've found a creationist attempt at "hole punching" to be the result of an intelligent, well-informed, honest attempt which turned out to be in error in some subtle way. But such examples are rare enough that I can count they average out to far less than one per year. The vast majority are just the same old recycled trash which was shown to be trivially fallacious (or shockingly dishonest) long, long ago.
I then asked him to support this idiotic claim and the best he could come up with is that he put Hovind and Gore3000 in their place. I was somewhat underwhelmed as one could imagine.
However if you want to stick up for Ichy why don't put up some empirical scientific evidence to support his claim to total intellectual domination and your "Worldview" as well.
Good luck and happy hunting.
Kindest regards,
Boiler Plate
A pointless non-sequitur as you and your fellow travelers would surmise that anyway simply because I am not an obsessive Creationidiot.
Ah, true evolutionist debate tactics. Since you can not defend your position on a inteligent level or even know what it is you believe in, then just call the other guy names and claim victory.
Touche' then, you win! Well at least by yours and Ichy's standard. I bet all the other kids will be impressed.
Best Regards,
Boiler Plate
I don't want to give away too much here, but certain cretan evos actually repulse potential converts.
I close my eyes, only for a moment, and the moment's gone
All my dreams, pass before my eyes, a curiosity
Dust in the wind, all they are is dust in the wind.
Same old song, just a drop of water in an endless sea
All we do, crumbles to the ground, though we refuse to see
Dust in the wind, all we are is dust in the wind
[Now] Don't hang on, nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky
It slips away, and all your money won't another minute buy.
Dust in the wind, all we are is dust in the wind
Dust in the wind, everything is dust in the wind.
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