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Disney remembers a different 'Alamo' [Hugh Hewitt on Hollywood's latest project to redefine America]
www.worldnetdaily.com ^ | February 26, 2003 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 02/26/2003 3:13:27 AM PST by RonDog


WND Exclusive Commentary
Disney remembers a different 'Alamo'

Posted: February 26, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
Given Hollywood's current anti-war, ant-military, anti-thinking stances, I suppose it was only a matter of time before it came for Davey Crockett. But who would have imagined it was Disney that would lead the charge against the legend?

What would Walt say?

Monday's Los Angeles Times carried a front-page story on "The Alamo," Disney's in-production blockbuster scheduled for release this Christmas. The key paragraphs:

"'We're making sure all viewpoints are expressed,' said Disney Studios Chairman Richard Cook. 'You have to stay away from the stereotypes and not make broad judgments of any group.'"

"This time Crockett, played by Billy Bob Thorton, is depicted as a frightened wanderer struggling to match his larger-than-life reputation for exploits that never occurred ..."

"'It would be really hard to do something rah-rah jingoistic, patriotic,' [director John Lee] Hancock said in an interview. A sometimes 'messy and confusing' portrait of the motivations behind the conflict, he insisted, 'is much better that the white-vs.-brown version, which by the way, is completely inaccurate.'"

"One of the thornier issues in the various scripts produced so far has been Crockett's death, a subject of controversy since it occurred in 1836. Persistent lore, bitterly disputed by the famous Tennessean's fans, held that Crockett, rather than fighting to death, was executed after begging for his life."

In 1995, a North Carolina State professor, James Crisp, made an argument that an eyewitness account, written in prison by a Lt. Col. Jose Enrique de la Pena, was authentic and that the account had Crockett executed on Gen. Santa Ana's orders. Others dispute that, and brand the prison diary a forgery. This is the stuff of academic history, and the predictable arguments will rage forever. And into such conversations between scholars, agenda-driven directors are free to dive.

Director Hancock is free to choose between accounts, of course, but the choice he makes is a statement not about what happened at the Alamo, but about what he and Disney thinks America in 2003 ought to think about the Alamo, and about the virtues or sins of the men who defended it. This early report from the Times is not promising.

The desire to wreck the outline of history that serves the idea that America, for all its flaws, was honorably conceived and built is powerful among those who find profit in affecting disaffection. Pop singer Paula Cole just let rip with an anti-Bush song that includes the hilarious line "what about us folks who live hand to mouth ..." This is the sort of pose that passes for thought in modern entertainment circles, and it is a far cry from Jimmy Stewart marching off to join the Air Force, which he did even before Pearl Harbor was bombed – before, in other words, the threat had been made so clear as to be impossible to ignore. (Stewart entered as a private and rose to the rank of colonel during the war, earning the Air Medal, the Distinguished Flying Cross, the Croix de Guerre and 7 battle stars.)

The anti-Bush crowd argues that it isn't anti-American, just anti-war or anti-W. They casually repeat the blood libel that "it is all about the oil," and they are patient with a brutal dictator that has murdered hundreds of thousands. To indulge such fantasies is to ignore the entire history of our country, and to attribute to their fellow citizens the worst sort of evil. This is not easily done against the backdrop of American anti-imperialism and genuine idealism, the record of withdrawal from Iraq in 1991 or of reconstruction of Germany and Japan. In order to construct a picture of present-day American malevolence, it is necessary to deconstruct the understanding of the American past that makes such claims absurd.

So the project to redefine America moves backward even as it moves forward. There is no conspiracy, of course, only a mindset rooted in thin education and a desire for attention. There is no blueprint, only a shared attitude that finds thrill in Oliver Stone's fevers and inspiration in Susan Sarandon's rants.

A couple of years ago, during one of the last meals I shared with Col. Bill Barber, retired from the United States Marine Corps, and a Medal of Honor recipient for his heroism at the Chosin Reservoir, I had a glimpse of the real deal's view of the posers. Disney's "Pearl Harbor" had just been released, and I asked the colonel if he had seen it. "I knew Jimmy Doolittle," he said, "and I am not going to see any movie that has Jimmy Doolittle played by Alec Baldwin."

The colonel didn't elaborate, nor did he need to. When Hollywood celebrates the genuine courage and sacrifice of the military that secured for it the freedom within which artistic license flourishes, the public responds. See: "Saving Private Ryan," and "The Patriot." When the politics of the left creep in, the public stays home. When Disney's "The Alamo" appears in December, the box office will once again reflect the political choices currently being made. You have to wonder if the shareholders are watching.




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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: alamo; christianlife; davycrockett; disney; hughhewitt

1 posted on 02/26/2003 3:13:28 AM PST by RonDog
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To: JohnHuang2
ping
2 posted on 02/26/2003 3:15:43 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
More disney destruction.
3 posted on 02/26/2003 3:28:36 AM PST by Spirited
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To: RonDog
You watch these award shows and you see a whole theater full of people sharing the same thought. Where else will you get the whole crowd doing that? It seems that celebrites are not allowed to have a different thought. In that whole theater there is not one person that thinks differently? Maybe they are afraid to stray from the party line. Is that McCarthyism? Is that communisim?
4 posted on 02/26/2003 3:35:29 AM PST by patj
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To: RonDog
Walt's hitting about 5000 RPM in his cryo-tube right now...
5 posted on 02/26/2003 3:37:21 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (where is Scotty Moore when we need him most?)
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To: RonDog
See also Hugh's column today in the Weekly Standard:
Too Much Information
[Hugh Hewitt: Some homeland security questions are better left unanswered]

www.weeklystandard.com ^ | February 26, 2003 | Hugh Hewitt
Posted on 02/26/2003 3:29 AM PST by RonDog

Too Much Information
When it comes to homeland security, some questions are better left unanswered and some scenarios left unexplored.

by Hugh Hewitt
02/26/2003 12:00:00 AM

Hugh Hewitt, contributing writer

FROM THE MOMENT listeners realized that terrorism had come to America, callers to my radio program have wanted to discuss various terrorism scenarios. Invariably the conversation begins, "If I was a terrorist, here's how I'd paralyze the country . . ."
CLICK HERE for more

6 posted on 02/26/2003 3:42:30 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog; xm177e2; mercy; Wait4Truth; hole_n_one; GretchenEE; Clinton's a rapist; buffyt; ...

Hugh Hewitt MEGA PING!!


7 posted on 02/26/2003 3:43:45 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: doug from upland; ALOHA RONNIE; DLfromthedesert; PatiPie; flamefront; onyx; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Irma; ...
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"'We're making sure all viewpoints are expressed,' said Disney Studios Chairman Richard Cook. 'You have to stay away from the stereotypes and not make broad judgments of any group.'"

"This time Crockett, played by Billy Bob Thorton, is depicted as a frightened wanderer struggling to match his larger-than-life reputation for exploits that never occurred ..."

"'It would be really hard to do something rah-rah jingoistic, patriotic,' [director John Lee] Hancock said in an interview..." - Hugh Hewitt

See also "something rah-rah jingoistic, patriotic" - from http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv/davy-crockett.htm:
Davy Crockett

"Davy Crockett Indian Fighter" 12/15/54
"Davy Crockett Goes to Congress" 1/26/55
"Davy Crockett At the Alamo" 2/23/55
"Davy Crockett's Keelboat Race" 11/16/55
"Davy Crockett and the River Pirates" 12/14/55

Produced as part of Walt Disney Studios under the Disneyland banner

Davy Crockett Cast

Fess Parker as Davy Crockett
Buddy Ebsen as George Russel

Fess Parker
Fess Parker

Davy Crockett Theme Song

"Ballad of Davy Crockett"
Words by George Bruns and Lyrics by Tom Blackburn
Performed by Bill Hayes
Click Here for Lyrics

Davy Crockett Tidbits

This could rightly be called the first miniseries of all time. Under the Walt Disney banner, Davy captured the hearts of both young and old. The show was also a merchandising pioneer as coonskin caps sold like hotcakes. About 100 million dollars worth. The idea of selling tie-ins from a show is accepted practice now but it wasn't back then!

What's curious about this is that Davy Crockett was only a five feature Frontierland adventure which aired as part of Disneyland.

Davy Crockett, Fess Parker
Fess Parker
From the Doug Abbott Collection

The first three episodes were:
"Davy Crockett Indian Fighter" 12/15/54
"Davy Crockett Goes to Congress" 1/26/55
"Davy Crockett At the Alamo" 2/23/55

Now as any student of history knows, Davy at the Alamo kind of boxed Disney into a corner because that's where his tale ends. So they had to go back and make episodes about his earlier exploits. Which were:
"Davy Crockett's Keelboat Race" 11/16/55
"Davy Crockett and the River Pirates" 12/14/55

Davy Crockett never got a series of his own.

Fess Parker portrayed both Davy Crockett and later Daniel Boone on TV. Many historians feel that this caused a permanent blurring of the two real life men into one entity forever making each less distinct.

Fess Parker now runs the Fess Parker Winery where you can buy a coonskin cap!

Davy Crockett - Fess Parker
Fess Parker
If you listen to Hugh Hewitt, or read his WND commentaries,
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8 posted on 02/26/2003 4:18:36 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
The real, one and only!

Davy was only one of Andy Jackson's agents in the plot to separate Tejas from Mexico, the same plot that landed Aaron Burr in the soup with one president was carried to fruition by another.

9 posted on 02/26/2003 4:19:41 AM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: RonDog
Haha! You beat me to ol' Fess...
10 posted on 02/26/2003 4:20:57 AM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: RonDog
BOYCOTT DISNEY: a vortex of seductive evil™
11 posted on 02/26/2003 4:26:07 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: RonDog
this must be the article we spoke about here
12 posted on 02/26/2003 4:33:12 AM PST by The Wizard (Demonrats are enemies of America)
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To: RonDog
Be Sure to check out our Comments on .."The ALAMO".. Fansite:

.. http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com ..
13 posted on 02/26/2003 4:37:20 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRay.com)
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To: RonDog
"This time Crockett, played by Billy Bob Thorton, is depicted as a frightened wanderer struggling to match his larger-than-life reputation for exploits that never occurred ..."

Yea... they'll have him wearing a dress at the end trying to sneak out. HA!

A few years back, some goombah came out with a book that said the only reason Bowie and Crockett stayed in the Alamo was because they had hid a huge load of treasure there!

14 posted on 02/26/2003 4:42:22 AM PST by johnny7 (Make sure you're right... then, go ahead. -David Crockett)
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To: RonDog
...Don't miss outstanding...

.."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. Forum at:

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=8
15 posted on 02/26/2003 4:42:46 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRay.com)
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To: metesky
...Walt Disney's DAVY CROCKETT =

...An American Hero

...Michael Eisner's DAVY CROCKETT =

...An American Anti-Hero

as poor Ol'Walt just rows right on over in his grave about this "Little Number"..!!!
16 posted on 02/26/2003 4:46:33 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRay.com)
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To: johnny7
They WILL get some ACTIVE opposition in TEXAS! WE don't like people displaying a lack of respect for the Alamo.

This isn't anti-american....its anti-TEXAS. Lets secede and leave it to 'em.

17 posted on 02/26/2003 4:48:31 AM PST by cb
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
In the fifties when the kids on our block would act out the latest Fess Parker/Crockett episode, the other kids had their coonskin caps and official Disney paraphenalia but I had my father's old drilling rifle from Boston Latin's Jr. ROTC, a "Brown Bess" type flintlock with a wooden barrel and the trigger and hammer removed.

Guess who was top dog...

18 posted on 02/26/2003 4:55:33 AM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: metesky
Haha! You beat me to ol' Fess...
Actually, there was ANOTHER "Davy Crockett" - the [almost] REAL one, from ths semi-apocryphal [sort of] true story:
Not Yours to Give
personal archives ^ | Provided as courtesy by Charles Starr for Congress
Posted on 01/23/2002 9:15 AM PST by Chapita
One day in the House of Representatives, a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of the widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support. The Speaker was just about to put the question when Mr. Crockett arose:

"Mr. Speaker - I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the suffering of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this house, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into an argument to prove that Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please to charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money. Some eloquent appeals have been made to us upon the ground that it is a debt due the deceased. Mr. Speaker, the deceased lived long after the close of the war; he was in office to the day of his death, and I have never heard that the government was in arrears to him.

"Every man in this House knows it is not a debt. We cannot, without the grossest corruption, appropriate this money as the payment of a debt. We have not the semblance of authority to appropriate it as charity. Mr. Speaker, I have said we have the right to give as much money of our own as we please. I am the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I will give one week's pay to the object, and, if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks."

He took his seat. Nobody replied. The bill was put upon its passage, and, instead of passing unanimously, as was generally supposed, and as, not doubt, it would but for that speech, it received but few votes, and of course was lost.

Later, when asked by a friend why he had opposed the appropriation, Crockett gave this explanation...

CLICK HERE for a LONG thread where we explore the documentation for this alleged event in GREAT detail

19 posted on 02/26/2003 4:57:26 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog; Sabertooth; Clinton Is Scum; Joy Angela; Lexington Green; Landru; ...
See:

'ALAMO Legend, Take 2' = L.A. Times

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=729
20 posted on 02/26/2003 4:58:35 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRay.com)
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To: RonDog
Great column. We don't "do" Disney and this just gives me more ammunition when people ask why.

When it comes to Hollywackos, I think this says it all:

"I knew Jimmy Doolittle," he said, "and I am not going to see any movie that has Jimmy Doolittle played by Alec Baldwin."

The colonel didn't elaborate, nor did he need to.

Amen.

21 posted on 02/26/2003 5:00:54 AM PST by FourPeas
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To: metesky
.."Be sure you're right, then go ahead" =

...FESS PARKER as DAVY CROCKETT =

...A True Preview from 50 years ago of today's:

http://www.Freerepublic.com ..!!!
22 posted on 02/26/2003 5:06:01 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRay.com)
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To: RonDog
You've got to admit, a modernized, politically correct version of the Alamo offers certain possibilities. Let's look at this screen play :

Opening Scene
(Director's Notes )

In the square, in front of the Alamo (shown here, in low angle shot, as a dark, looming, and sinister building )a group of happy peasant villagers, wearing bright, simple costumes, are dancing. Joyous mariachi music fills the air. Cut to close-up of :

La Paloma , ( portrayed by Madonna, if she's available; or maybe that Black chick with the blue eyes-you know, Sol : the one who did the one-on-one lez scene for that skin mag. )
Camera zooms in on her scooped neckline, and you can see more than a little of her jugs-but make it tasteful, Sol, okay ?

Background: Blaring trumpets, a little off-key. The mariachi band falters to a halt, as the trumpets blare again, and the gate of the Alamo starts to open.
( Sol, see if you could maybe get some of that opening theme music from " JAWS " : you know : " Bump. Bump-bump ! Bump-bump-bump-pump-bump ! " Offer Spielberg maybe a piece of the picture - couple a points- see if he'll go for it. )

Gate opens slowly, and a platoon of swaggering, heavily armed, redneck-looking , tobacco-spitting , bottle swigging White "frontiersmen" shambles out : pointing rifles at the frightened villagers.

Davey Crockett , the Leader of this vicious group-
( Sol, get me somebody like Rod Steiger, only dirty him up a little, know what I mean .)

Davey Crockett swaggers up to La Paloma , whose bodice begins heaving, and grabs her roughly by the arm.

Crockett : " Yer comin' with us, sis ! "
La Paloma : " Never ! "

Ignoring her screams, Crockett drags the screamin, wailing woman inside the gates of the fort.
The frontiersmen,keeping their weapons pointed at the angry crowd, back up until they are inside the gates, which they then slam shut.

The shocked villagers listen to La Paloma's screams, until

Kindly Padre " You, Diego : Go quickly and tell el General Santa Ana ! He will save us ! "

Fade to black.

23 posted on 02/26/2003 5:09:40 AM PST by genefromjersey (Can't help myself !!)
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To: metesky
...We kids just loved Walt Disney's DAVY CROCKETT on Black and White TV as part of ABC-TV's .."DISNEYLAND" 1st year...

...and a little later in Full Color on our local Movie Theater Screens.

...DISNEYLAND =

...The Park FESS PARKER helped build.
24 posted on 02/26/2003 5:27:31 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRay.com)
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To: All
Native Texan Dennis Quaid should of thought this one thru and not played Sam Houston in this debacle.

His brother Randy is now of the age where he needs to continue in the role of LBJ.

Anyway, it ain't playing to well at this year's Houston Fat Stock Show and Rodeo.

25 posted on 02/26/2003 5:53:26 AM PST by battlegearboat (Wishing all these old things were new. (The Hag)
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To: battlegearboat
to=too
26 posted on 02/26/2003 5:54:46 AM PST by battlegearboat (Wishing all these old things were new. (The Hag)
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To: RonDog
"I knew Jimmy Doolittle," he said, "and I am not going to see any movie that has Jimmy Doolittle played by Alec Baldwin."

It goes without saying that any self-respecting person would not see any movie that had Alec Baldwin.

I recently picked up Band of Brothers on DVD. Excellent, imho. One of the discs is interviews with the actors, behind the scenes stuff, etc. I thought that it was fun to watch actors be utterly starstruck by the people that they were playing. Hero worship is a strong term, but everyone interviewed seemed to understand the gravity of what they were trying to depict.

27 posted on 02/26/2003 6:00:10 AM PST by wbill
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To: RonDog
Lets wait until we see the film...

28 posted on 02/26/2003 6:07:12 AM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: RonDog
The papers referencing Crockett's death were studied extensively, and the final reports were inconclusive.

One show (on Disc? History Channel?) showed the research, but made its hype based on the fact that our history is wrong. I was so PO'd by the end of the show when they had no conclusive proof.
29 posted on 02/26/2003 6:14:32 AM PST by Patriotic1
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To: RonDog
Texas State Historical Society with the the searchable database of the Handbook of Texas
30 posted on 02/26/2003 6:44:39 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks for the heads up!
31 posted on 02/26/2003 7:51:10 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: JohnHuang2
Hugh Hewitt ... Bump~!

Be Well - Be Armed - Be Safe - Molon Labe!
32 posted on 02/26/2003 8:48:22 AM PST by blackie
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To: RonDog
Flog Eisner publicly.

He got rich and now the stock has tanked. I own it.

Uglyass bastard PC peckerhead.
33 posted on 02/26/2003 10:03:02 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: wbill
I recently picked up Band of Brothers on DVD. Excellent, imho. One of the discs is interviews with the actors, behind the scenes stuff, etc. I thought that it was fun to watch actors be utterly starstruck by the people that they were playing. Hero worship is a strong term, but everyone interviewed seemed to understand the gravity of what they were trying to depict.

None better. I had occasion to meet Walt Ehlers (1st Infantry Division, MOH 1944) at the California Rifle and Pistol Association dinner a couple of weekends ago. What an honor that was.

And last year I was priviliged to meet Richard Winters, whose story was told in Band of Brothers. He is still an imposing figure even at 84 years of age, although his health is starting to fail.

I can easily see why the cast of Band of Brothers was so impressed with their namesakes. These men are a national treasure, and you can sense that just by being in their presence.

I only hope Major Winters is able to travel to Normandy next summer for the 60th anniversary of the invasion. It would be a real honor to see him there.

34 posted on 02/26/2003 5:16:51 PM PST by Euro-American Scum
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To: metesky
Davy was only one of Andy Jackson's agents in the plot to separate Tejas from Mexico, the same plot that landed Aaron Burr in the soup with one president was carried to fruition by another.

In life Crockett was one of Andrew Jackson's most bitterest opponents. I don't know what you base this claim on. Nothing, I suspect.

35 posted on 02/26/2003 5:24:34 PM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: RonDog
If Disney really wants to burn its bridges with the majority of Texans, all it has to do is re-write the story of the Alamo from a modern Hollywood perspective.

If they're lucky, the movie will bomb in Texas. More likely, the theaters will get bombed, or at least egged.

36 posted on 02/26/2003 5:31:02 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: RonDog
Save your cash. The Duke's 1960 Alamo will never be superseded as a definitive statement of what happened in 1830s Texas under Mexican rule. Long live The Alamo!
37 posted on 02/26/2003 6:12:43 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: RonDog
I saw the John Wayne version, that was filmed in Brackettville, at the old Majestic theater in San Antonio.
I think it was about 1965, or 1966. What a grand old theater
that was, so beautiful on the inside. One of the things I
remember about that is the Hispanic folks that were
there watching the movie cheered for the Texicans, and not
for Santa Anna's army. I grew up in San Antonio, and still
visit frequently. Except for the starbucks, and the planet
hollywood junk that has been built, not that much has changed since the battle. The strip between the Alamo and El Mercado, with San Fernando Cathedral in between is
enough in tact that you can still envision what life was like at that time. The history of San Antonio de Bexar has
always fascinated me.
38 posted on 02/26/2003 10:57:02 PM PST by davetex
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To: SpringheelJack
Most bitterest?
39 posted on 02/27/2003 1:44:07 AM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: metesky
Most bitterest?

"In fact we may Say with propriety that we have the government of one man Andrew Jackson holds both the Sword and purse and Claims it by the Constitution as the Arms and amunition and other public property and he has tools and Slaves to his party enough to Sustain him in the house of representatives But we have one hope the Senate will Save the Constitution and laws in spite of King Andrew the first.... we are gitting his poor lick Spittles almost ashamed of them selves" (Crockett, May 26, 1834).

"I have Said for the last four years that I would vote for the devil against Van [Buren] and any man under the Sun against Jackson and I have got no better yet" (Crockett, December 27, 1834).

These are quotes just taken at random from James Shackford's biography of Crockett. Crockett's anti-Jacksonian politics are well known, and are amply described therein. Davy was defeated for re-election by Adam Huntsman largely because of his opposition to what he saw as Jackson's tyranny.

40 posted on 02/27/2003 10:06:00 AM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: metesky
Most bitterest?

"In fact we may Say with propriety that we have the government of one man Andrew Jackson holds both the Sword and purse and Claims it by the Constitution as the Arms and amunition and other public property and he has tools and Slaves to his party enough to Sustain him in the house of representatives But we have one hope the Senate will Save the Constitution and laws in spite of King Andrew the first.... we are gitting his poor lick Spittles almost ashamed of them selves" (Crockett, May 26, 1834).

"I have Said for the last four years that I would vote for the devil against Van [Buren] and any man under the Sun against Jackson and I have got no better yet" (Crockett, December 27, 1834).

These are quotes just taken at random from James Shackford's biography of Crockett. Crockett's anti-Jacksonian politics are well known, and are amply described therein. Davy was defeated for re-election by Adam Huntsman largely because of his opposition to what he saw as Jackson's tyranny.

41 posted on 02/27/2003 10:06:53 AM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: SpringheelJack
There are many people who believe that Crockett's much publicized feud with Jackson, his former mentor, was part of the plot.

Besides, I was mocking your grammar and usage: most bitterest indeed...

And you stuttered.

42 posted on 02/27/2003 11:58:58 AM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: metesky
There are many people who believe that Crockett's much publicized feud with Jackson, his former mentor, was part of the plot.

Uh huh. Documentation?

Besides, I was mocking your grammar and usage: most bitterest indeed...

For a Grammar Nazi you're an awfully poor one. It's pretty wild that you'd have the nerve to lecture me on my grammar after that run-on sentence you posted in #9 of this thread.

And you stuttered.

Free Republic has been having loading problems today, and I accidentally clicked my post in twice. No problem: the facts are worth repeating.

43 posted on 02/27/2003 12:50:25 PM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: SpringheelJack
Free Republic has been having loading problems today

No kidding! What a pain in the butt, eh?

44 posted on 02/27/2003 7:15:03 PM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: RonDog
Let's get it straight. Davy did not surrender. Most scholars have concluded the Pena diary was a hoax. Was he trapped inside the Alamo? Probably. He could have left as could any of the others. He chose to stay and it may have been his legendary status that forced him to stay. After all, he was Davy Crockett.

As for the comment that he was an agent for Jackson. Poppycock! He hated Jackson. I was Jackson who ran a lawyer against him when he lost his reelection bid to Congress. He and Jackson parted ways over squatters' rights.

Finally, I had a chance to audition for a part in this film and turned it down once I learned how they were going to portay the patriots who died there. This is one Texan who will not waste his money. Billy Bob Thornton is a Clinton butt licker and he is on my list of "don't see" actors.

45 posted on 02/27/2003 7:28:59 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: RonDog
Good stuff, RonDog!

Watched John Wayne's version night before last. Spectacular cinematography. Will rewatch it in lieu of disney's latest trash.

46 posted on 02/27/2003 9:49:47 PM PST by jo6pac
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To: RonDog
NEVER FORGET


'ALAMO Legend, Take 2' = L.A. Times

http://TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=729


NEVER FORGET
47 posted on 03/02/2003 6:53:52 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRay.com)
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