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[Civil Disobedience Now!] JUDGES WHO BANNED THE PLEDGE MUST BE REMOVED FROM THE BENCH
Catholic League ^ | 2-28-2003 | William Donohue

Posted on 02/28/2003 2:42:55 PM PST by Notwithstanding

Catholic League president William Donohue commented on the decision reached today by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals upholding a challenge to its decision banning the Pledge of Allegiance because of the words “under God.” Here are his remarks:

“Two things need to be done immediately: teachers and students should practice civil disobedience and the judges must be impeached.

“It is up to the teachers in the nine western states affected by this decision to break the law: they should instruct their students on the meaning of civil disobedience and then practice it. All they need to do is call the cops and local TV reporters and then recite the Pledge of Allegiance in their presence. It needs to be shown on television all over the world that as the U.S. prepares to go to war to maintain the liberties symbolized in the Pledge, there are brave men, women and children at home who are prepared to fight tyranny on our own soil.

“Iraq’s problem is tyranny of the minority. Ironically, that’s our problem as well. But the Iraqi people at least stand to be liberated and have their tyrant deposed. We need to do the same with ours, albeit with different means: impeachment proceedings against the two federal judges who made this decision should commence as soon as possible. Make no mistake about it, it is not enough for the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn this ruling. Judicial malpractice has been committed and those responsible must be removed from the bench. They should be removed not because most Americans disagree with them but because of jurisprudential incompetence.”


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I think FR ought to lead the way in staging huge displays of civil disobedience at schools in their communities.
1 posted on 02/28/2003 2:42:55 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: AKA Elena; american colleen; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Aristophanes; ArrogantBustard; Askel5; ...
Pledge ping.
2 posted on 02/28/2003 2:47:51 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding
I am old enough that when I learned the pledge, the phrase wasn't in there.
Adding it was a pathetic little slap at "Godless Comunism" and acomplished nothing except to break the word flow of thte pledge and cause division among Americans.

It is past time to take it out and use the original pledge.

So9

3 posted on 02/28/2003 2:48:14 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: Notwithstanding
I thought public schools at their very nature are an exercise in disobedience.
4 posted on 02/28/2003 2:48:55 PM PST by Gary Boldwater
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To: Notwithstanding
I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
5 posted on 02/28/2003 2:50:50 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Notwithstanding
All the more reason for Miguel Estrada, Charles Pickering, Pricilla Owens and many more like them to sit on the judicial benches instead of these judicial activists that want to legislate from the bench and pass laws that would never pass the legislative process through congress.!
6 posted on 02/28/2003 2:51:33 PM PST by KriegerGeist
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
“Two things need to be done immediately: teachers and students should practice civil disobedience and the judges must be impeached.

“It is up to the teachers in the nine western states affected by this decision to break the law: they should instruct their students on the meaning of civil disobedience and then practice it. All they need to do is call the cops and local TV reporters and then recite the Pledge of Allegiance in their presence. It needs to be shown on television all over the world that as the U.S. prepares to go to war to maintain the liberties symbolized in the Pledge, there are brave men, women and children at home who are prepared to fight tyranny on our own soil.

7 posted on 02/28/2003 2:53:41 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding
If i were a police officer and one of these "black robed thieves"gave the order to arrest or stop the pledge,I WOULD REFUSE TO CARRY IT OUT!This court should be rendered impotent.
8 posted on 02/28/2003 2:55:30 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Servant of the Nine
yawn.
9 posted on 02/28/2003 2:58:18 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main.")
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To: Servant of the Nine
I think you will find that - although a few will agree with you - you are, by far, in the minority in your opinion.

Even the majority of very liberal Clinton lovers I know very much support the "Under God" statement. To deny God in our pledge is a refusal to give God the thanks for our country in the first place. Don't forget, without God's Grace, the United States would not be here. He has blessed our country through almost 227 years (not including the "colony days", despite our turn away from Him.

I think it's only moral and right to at least aknowledge him when we recite the pledge.
10 posted on 02/28/2003 2:59:58 PM PST by TheBattman
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To: Saundra Duffy
I can see you organizing a massive pledge event at your local public school!
11 posted on 02/28/2003 3:00:57 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding
Not that I disagree with you (or Bill Donohue) in principle, but you must be kidding about PUBLIC SCHOOLS taking a stand for theism, patriotism, or anything else people like us believe in.

They're the base level of the system that has the 9th Circuit judges as its pinnacle.

With liberty and justice for all, BORN AND UNBORN!
12 posted on 02/28/2003 3:10:03 PM PST by Tax-chick ("I'm from Oklahoma, the center of the universe!")
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To: Notwithstanding
The pledge was not banned.

They should be removed not because most Americans disagree with them but because of jurisprudential incompetence.

No, it's because most Americans disagree with them.

13 posted on 02/28/2003 3:11:58 PM PST by mlo
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To: Notwithstanding
Iraq’s problem is tyranny of the minority. Ironically, that’s our problem as well. But the Iraqi people at least stand to be liberated and have their tyrant deposed.

This fellow is an idiot to suggest any comparable relationship. A real idiot.

14 posted on 02/28/2003 3:16:16 PM PST by RJCogburn (Yes, it is bold talk.....)
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To: Servant of the Nine
Sorry, I am old enough that I know it both ways, and I TOTALLY DISAGREE with you. We are ONE NATION...under God. Our currency displays, " in GOD we TRUST".....ya want that changed too???
15 posted on 02/28/2003 3:17:38 PM PST by pollywog
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To: mlo
So a mob rule, instead of a legal rule? And as I'm not a god fearing citizen my liberty is in danger.
Is this the god of islam? or is this a salem witch hunt type god were under.
16 posted on 02/28/2003 3:20:29 PM PST by earplug
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To: pollywog
Our currency displays, " in GOD we TRUST".....ya want that changed too???

Yes, not because it violates the First Amendment, I don't think it does, any more than the pledge does, but because it's tacky and divisive.

Neither has any positive value whatsoever.
Do you really think it makes anyone more devout because it's in the pledge or on the money?

Both have profound negative consequences in seperating the Godly from the Godless when both are conservative and agree on other isues.

They are crude 1950's era propaganda. They are laughable. They are as preposterous as all the Soviet statues of Lenin or Mao were.
I want them both removed on the grounds of bad taste.

So9

17 posted on 02/28/2003 3:42:37 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: Servant of the Nine
Right on. There are far more important things than trying to keep in place what was installed during the Red Scare sixty years ago.
18 posted on 02/28/2003 3:46:17 PM PST by LiberalBuster
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To: TheBattman
>>I think you will find that - although a few will agree
>>with you - you are, by far, in the minority in your
>>opinion.

Which is why judges are (for the most part) not democratically elected - precisely because the majority CAN be wrong.
19 posted on 02/28/2003 3:48:46 PM PST by LiberalBuster
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
I Pledge Allegiance
to the flag of the
United States of America
and to the Republic
for which it stands,
one Nation indivisible,
with liberty and justice for all.

So9

20 posted on 02/28/2003 3:49:06 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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