Revealed: US dirty tricks to win vote on Iraq war

The Observer (U.K.) ^ | 03/02/03 | Martin Bright, Ed Vulliamy, and Peter Beaumont

[dagnabbit]

This e-mail is a red herring, a fake and preposterous on its face.

Bump for truth. The thing's fake for about five different reasons.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Plus the guy misspelled his own name. Is it Kuza or Kuzu??

It's either Koza or Kozu, not Kuza or Kuzu. But maybe we'll see another "leaked" memo tomorrow with yet another spelling variant. They need to get a Webster's Dictionary next time.

[dinok]

We pay for those phones...why not tap them?

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Thanks for the kudos. GB and US are "Two countries separated by a common language," as G B Shaw said. :)

[Walkingfeather]

err um.... Who do you think installed the phones?

[Beck_isright]

"Solution: relocate the UN HQ"

Amen brother. South Africa is the perfect location. Or North Korea.

[EastCoast]

This memo was written by a Brit. Look at it closely: format, spelling of certain words, the name KOZU later referred to as KOZA. And the left wing press in Britain is doing the "revealing" of this memo.

[PatL]

Given that the NSA is a bureaucracy, This message is too
straight forward.
It sounds like a memo out of a bad spy novel.

[Dont Mention the War]

Might as well change the headline on this article to "Guardian Caught In Ultimate Lie to Discredit US and Blair."

And come to think of it, isn't this sort of thing prosecutable in the UK?

[Dont Mention the War]

I can't find anything about this on the BBC web site. Considering their hatred of the US, this must be wildly false on its face for them to completely ignore it.

Perhaps Katrina vanden Heuvel can reprint it over here. On second thought, even she's probably rolling her eyes at this.

The Guardian/Observer has lost ALL credibility for the rest of human time.

[Cachelot]

NAME IN ALLEGED EMAIL IS 'KOZU'

Hahahaha. Our old friend Kudzu comes to mind. Do the Saudis use the English or American format?

[white trash redneck]

And thie problem with this is ... what?

[Steve Eisenberg]

The Guardian/Observer has lost ALL credibility for the rest of human time.

Right.

Here's the pattern:

1. On a Saturday night, there opens a FR thread repeating a trashy British Sunday newspaper headline accusing the US of some militaristic crime.

2. People here who want a more militarily assertive US start celebrating that we are doing whatever awful thing the Guardian, Scotsman, etc., just accused us of.

3. Other posters wake up to the baseline truth pointed out by Dont Mention the War.

Next time, let's consider the source from the get-go.

[thinking]

Yes, I would be disappointed if there wasn't a high level of "bugging" going on....from all sides!

[sonsofliberty2000]

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Go to the Observer website and you can let them know what you think in their forum!

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Do you mean to suggest that U.S. bureaucrats do not speak and write like English public school twits trying (lamely) to imitate a U.S. bureaucrat? I mean they all read P. G. Wodehouse and the Guardian, don't they? I suspect John Le Carré is the source of this drivel.

[Alas Babylon!]

First of all, how many think a TOP SECRET/COMINT/XL (what the heck is XL?) is sent out on the INTERNET? Even if it was, and that is STRICTLY a massive security violation, it would at least be encrypted and require an offical "received" receipt. Secondly, the official abbreviation for Great Britain is UK, not GBR. I have NEVER heard of it refered to as GBR. Most recipients wouldn't even recognize this abbreviation. Finally, as pointed out, all the spellings are of the British, not American format.

[Dont Mention the War]

3. Other posters wake up to the baseline truth pointed out by Dont Mention the War.

Oh, if only this happened more often everywhere... :)

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[Starboard]

Do you mean to suggest that U.S. bureaucrats do not speak and write like English public school twits trying (lamely) to imitate a U.S. bureaucrat?

Oddly enough, most U.S. bureaucrats can write quite well. Its their stock and trade. They may not do much else, but wordsmithing is a skill that frequently helps them convey the impression of progress and activity (even in the absence of same).

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

I think you missed my point.