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LIVE THREAD: Estrada Filibuster
http://freerepublic.com ^ | March 3, 2003

Posted on 03/03/2003 8:38:29 AM PST by Howlin

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Comments and discussion of the live coverage of the continuing Estrada filibuster.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: estrada; estradafilibuster; filibuster; gop
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To: RobFromGa

arkin (D-IA) up.


161 posted on 03/03/2003 10:07:46 AM PST by RobFromGa (Real Americans Support Our Soldiers 100%)
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To: RobFromGa
THere BACK... Tom Harkin UP.
162 posted on 03/03/2003 10:08:09 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: cyncooper
Sen. Hatch says as far as he knows, none of the dems who claimed they lacked information submitted even one question.

LOL...that's rich!

163 posted on 03/03/2003 10:08:48 AM PST by nicmarlo (** UNDER GOD **)
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To: RobFromGa
I thought the 2nd letter was from the House. 50 signatures.
164 posted on 03/03/2003 10:08:56 AM PST by Jrabbit
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To: RobFromGa
I have called Frist's office each weekday now for just over a week [202-224-3344]. Each time I called, the phone was answered promptly and I spoke to a live person. (The one exception was the day last week when "all circuits were busy.")

Today, I told the young gentleman on the phone that a lot of people following this issue were growing anxious for it to be brought to a head. I told him that I understood that some Senators were in favor of postponing the cloture vote until enough Dems could be peeled off to actually win cloture. These Senators fear that if you force a vote too early on cloture, then the Dems who vote against cloture will be "cemented in" to that position and then they can't be turned later.

I told Frist's office that the issue was no longer whether Estrada was a conservative, but the issue now involved the very legitimacy of the Bush Presidency. In other words, in the minds of the Leahys and clintons of the world, Bush was never really elected and thus had no right to make appointments except upon the express consent of the liberal Democrats. According to this faction, 41 Senators now have absolute veto power over all judgeship appointments.

This is such a pressing issue of Constitutional proportions that it must be viewed as a war between those who would uphold the Constitution versus those who refuse to recognize the duly elected President. The filibuster must be pushed to 24/7 and kept going until they break -- a week, a month, or three months if necessary.

Frist's aide told me that today's debate would show a new direction from the Republican side. I don't know what he meant, but I am waiting to find out.

165 posted on 03/03/2003 10:11:44 AM PST by San Jacinto
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To: RobFromGa
Harkin:

I am very boring. I live in Iowa. I am a partisan Democratic hack. I will do everything that my leaders tell me.

"My friend from Utah" is "outrageous".
166 posted on 03/03/2003 10:12:02 AM PST by RobFromGa (Real Americans Support Our Soldiers 100%)
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To: RobFromGa
is Harkin trying to make the "two wrongs make a right" argument.
167 posted on 03/03/2003 10:13:39 AM PST by fml
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To: San Jacinto

Excellent reporting:

Frist's aide told me that today's debate would show a new direction from the Republican side. I don't know what he meant, but I am waiting to find out.

Looking forward to hearing what they are up to.

168 posted on 03/03/2003 10:13:45 AM PST by RobFromGa (Real Americans Support Our Soldiers 100%)
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To: San Jacinto
Frist's aide told me that today's debate would show a new direction from the Republican side. I don't know what he meant, but I am waiting to find out.

That sounds interesting .. thanks for the update

169 posted on 03/03/2003 10:14:30 AM PST by Mo1 (Free Miguel Estrata !!!)
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To: fml
Harkin:

This is not anti-Hispanic. We love the little brown b@stards. But we prefer the liberal ones. We hate all conservatives. Bush hasn't picked a single Hispanic appointee from New Jersey.. We love them more than they do.
170 posted on 03/03/2003 10:16:35 AM PST by RobFromGa (Real Americans Support Our Soldiers 100%)
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To: RobFromGa
A New direction sounds good. Bring in the cots?
171 posted on 03/03/2003 10:16:36 AM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: ken5050
but I can't understand where the Dems are going with that tack..other than straight to hell...

We're given an issue on a silver platter and Frist is nowhere to be found. They should be playing this thing up big time.

172 posted on 03/03/2003 10:17:47 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: San Jacinto
Outstanding job on the phone call, and interesting reporting on what the aide said. Thanks much on both counts.

Emailed Frist last night along the same lines, told him how important it is to all Republicans that this issue not just "fade away," giving the Democratic Party un-Constitutional control over all the President's judicial nominees.
173 posted on 03/03/2003 10:18:24 AM PST by GOPrincess
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To: RobFromGa
Harkin sounds like he's stalling for time

Now he's talking about the War on Iraq
174 posted on 03/03/2003 10:18:29 AM PST by Mo1 (Free Miguel Estrata !!!)
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To: TLBSHOW
Harkin:

Now accusing Bush of rush to war on Iraq. Containment has worked.
175 posted on 03/03/2003 10:19:11 AM PST by RobFromGa (Real Americans Support Our Soldiers 100%)
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To: TLBSHOW

176 posted on 03/03/2003 10:19:53 AM PST by RobFromGa (Real Americans Support Our Soldiers 100%)
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To: RobFromGa
Harkin is a human shield
177 posted on 03/03/2003 10:20:55 AM PST by CathyRyan
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To: RobFromGa
Script written by Hillary. She just said almost the same thing on her little visit to a munitions center in NYS.
178 posted on 03/03/2003 10:20:58 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: 1Old Pro
Interesting from National Reveiw article

It’s a pity, come to think of it, that there is only one Jesse Helms around; quite a few of his colleagues could use a spine transplant. The Senate judiciary committee — Orrin Hatch, chairman — held a friendly hearing a few weeks ago for Bonnie Campbell, a Clinton nominee for the eighth circuit court of appeals. Campbell was Iowa’s attorney general and director of Clinton’s 1992 campaign in the state. After losing a gubernatorial bid in 1994, she was appointed head of the Justice Department office in charge of administering the Violence against Women Act and peddling phony statistics about domestic abuse. You don’t need to be a law professor to know what kind of a judge she would be, and that’s reason enough in our view to reject her.

But even if we’re wrong — as most Republican senators, alas, think — there is evidence that she lacks a judicial temperament as well as constitutionalist convictions. During her 1994 run, she had this to say before the state teachers’ union about Christian conservatives: “I hate to call them Christian because I am Christian, and I hate to call them religious, because they’re not. . . . These are the people that get their orders from God, which is funny because I get contrary orders from God — maybe there’s more than one God.” Shame on Charles Grassley, Iowa’s Republican senator, for supporting Campbell. If Republicans can’t rouse themselves to oppose her lifetime appointment based on her views, they should at least be concerned that she appears to hear voices

Harkin talking about republicans stalling Bonnie Campbell nomination...this from the National Review at that time

179 posted on 03/03/2003 10:21:48 AM PST by estrogen
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To: RobFromGa; CougarGA7; Sacajaweau
Thanks, Rob. Perhaps I only read about the Gonzales' letter in the York story at National Review A New Move on Estrada.

This tells about the letter sent last Thursday to all 100 Senators.

180 posted on 03/03/2003 10:21:51 AM PST by justshe (FREE MIGUEL !)
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