[LisaFab]

Finally he got it that a cloture vote does not kill the nominations and the more you put the RATs on record of oppossing Estrada the better it is. Right now they don't want to force a cloture vote but they will sooner or later and keep doing it until the RATs cave.

I was trying to explain this very point to a few nervous conservative friends of mine. Although I love Rush and FoxNews, this misinformation reminds me of the first few minutes after the SCOTUS released the results of Bush v Gore decision. Almost everyone was confused.

As I told my friends, the only reason to fear a cloture vote would be that it would give an air of legitimacy to the 60+ vote standard to confirm. Other than that, this is a win-win situation for us and few Libs seem to understand this. Even if Estrada is not confirmed (and I doubt that will happen when the 'strategery' sinks in on them), we will have those that voted against him on record - including some up for near re-election from the southern and/or 'red' states.

[justshe]

"...this misinformation reminds me of the first few minutes after the SCOTUS released the results of Bush v Gore decision..."

I, to this day, have not forgiven Rita Cosby. I think my heart, literally, stopped.

[Sacajaweau]

Individual Senators are on record but this was a Party Plan.

An OBSTRUCTIONIST PARTY Plan.