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Sharon's Choice
American Prowler ^ | 03/04/03 | Jed Babbin

Posted on 03/03/2003 10:36:53 PM PST by Pokey78

For all who yet don't understand what we mean to do, President Bush sent a message to government sponsors of terrorism last week in his speech to the American Enterprise Institute. He announced a new vision for the Middle East, an American vision that brings peace and democracy and above all ends the threat of terrorism that so many governments there feed, fuel and fund. At least one terror sponsor understood the message. At last week's summit of the Arab League, Syrian strongman Bashar Assad said the United States' plan to remove Saddam Hussein was aimed to serve Israel's interests and dominate the Middle East. "We are all targeted," he said. "We are all in danger." Congratulations, Mr. Assad. Too bad you have neither the sense nor the guts to make the choice the president has offered you. To end the terrorism it breeds and feeds, America must change the face of the Middle East. Sitting in the path of the next Desert Storm is Israel.

Israel today is a grim place. One friend who just returned from there told just me how grim. The Palestinian territories are now locked down because Israel expects Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah to strike it hard when our Iraq campaign begins. No one is allowed in or out. Israeli civilians are mobilized. They have been told to expect Iraqi missiles carrying chemical and biological weapons, and that they will have three minutes or less to take cover in sealed rooms. Sources who have spoken with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and senior members of his government say that Sharon is deciding to respond, not preempt. Hundreds, perhaps thousands, of lives may be lost as a result of that decision.

President Bush sees -- correctly -- the need to preempt the threat of Saddam's weapons of mass destruction. Hollywoodenheads -- such as "Left Wing" star Martin Sheen -- who oppose the war also oppose preemption. In the new battle of the celebrity commercials, Sheen says inspections work and war won't. Answering Sheen, "Law and Order" star and former Senator Fred Thompson tells us why preemption is vital. Those who oppose preemption -- says Thompson in the ad -- ask what Saddam has done to us. Thompson's answer: before 9-11, what had the hijackers done to us? Every nation's right to self-defense includes the right to strike preemptively when the threat demands it.

That Israel could preempt the threat of Saddam's missiles is fairly certain. Just as it preempted his nuclear program with the 1981 air strike on the Osirak reactor, Israel could at least reduce significantly the threat posed by the Scuds. But if Coalition special forces and airstrikes don't wipe out Saddam's Scuds in the first two hours of the war, they will be launched at Israel.

Israel's second line of defense is its own Arrow antimissile system and the Patriot batteries on loan from us. No one expects Arrow and Patriot to function much better than they did in the 1991 Gulf War. Then, only one or two Scuds were hit by the antimissile systems. If one out of three is hit this time, the defense will have exceeded all expectations. Which means that two out of three will get through.

Saddam has about fifteen Scud batteries, and about six war shots for each. That's about ninety missiles. If the spec ops guys now roaming western Iraq are smart and lucky, most or all of them will be destroyed before they launch. But what if two or three batteries escape? They can launch about eighteen missiles. If Arrow and Patriot take out one-third, about twelve will hit some target inside Israel or wherever our troops may be. If the missiles are armed with chemical or biological warheads as expected, twelve missiles could kill hundreds of our troops, and thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, of Israeli civilians.

The mood in Israel is one of grim determination, even acceptance. It is the strangest of times. For the Israelis to accept the possibility of mass casualties without attempting preemption is simply not consistent with their history or their war plans up to this moment. There is only one explanation for it.

The Israelis can't strike Iraq now because to do so would risk interfering in our war plan. If they put any significant forces in Iraq or strike at Saddam's missiles, they could well throw us off schedule or even accidentally kill many of our troops. They are counting on us to defend them, and they are betting lives on our ability to do it. And they are setting the stage for a risky plan to end many of the other threats they face.

One source told me that if Israel is attacked with non-conventional weapons, or suffers mass casualties, the decision has already been made to destroy the Palestinian Authority, and kill Arafat. That same source confirmed that when Israel strikes against Hezbollah -- the Syrian terror subsidiary that controls southern Lebanon -- the Israelis will take the fight all the way to Damascus, and destroy Bashar Assad's regime. If they do, we should applaud them for doing so. But not for killing Arafat, though he richly deserves it.

Israel has the same right against of preemption we have against Saddam, Hezbollah or Syria. But deciding to absorb mass casualties as the price for taking retaliatory action makes no sense. Those who would condemn Israel for taking preemptive action will only delay -- not even moderate -- their criticism of a responsive strike. Israel will buy neither peace with the Arabs nor the respect or support of Europe with its losses. And if it chooses to kill Arafat, Israel may give the radical Islamists a victory they desperately seek but cannot themselves achieve.

Saddam and Arafat -- dead at the hands of Israel and the United States -- will be martyrs for the radical Islamists to rally around. Even more, if Israel kills Arafat, that will make the radicals' propaganda more credible when they say America is at war with the whole Arab world. Arafat is a bloody-handed terrorist. But he is worth much more to us alive than dead. If it were possible to capture both Saddam and Arafat and exile them to ridicule and ignominy, the fruits of our coming victory in Iraq would be magnified tenfold and they -- and the ideology they represent -- would be diminished. We will probably not have the chance to take Saddam alive. The Israelis have missed many opportunities to take Arafat and throw him out for good.

Rather than kill him, Israel should set up another chance to exile Arafat, and then banish him to some destination that itself reeks of irrelevance, shame and futility. How about Paris? Saddam delendus est.


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1 posted on 03/03/2003 10:36:53 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
No one expects Arrow and Patriot to function much better than they did in the 1991 Gulf War.

Hmmmm, I read in a military journal that these updated systems are significatly better than they were a decade ago. Does anyone have any info on this?

Then [during Gulf War I], only one or two Scuds were hit by the antimissile systems.

And I distinctly remember the military reports during the war claiming that the vast majority of Scuds were in fact successfully intercepted. It was a least a few months before we learned the truth about the impotence of the Patriot ABMs.

2 posted on 03/03/2003 10:46:44 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Pokey78
...twelve missiles could kill hundreds of our troops, and thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, of Israeli civilians.

If that happens, then the US won't have to worry much about nation-building in Iraq, as Iraq will cease to exist as a nation.

3 posted on 03/03/2003 10:49:13 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: Pokey78
One source told me that if Israel is attacked with non-conventional weapons, or suffers mass casualties, the decision has already been made to destroy the Palestinian Authority, and kill Arafat. That same source confirmed that when Israel strikes against Hezbollah -- the Syrian terror subsidiary that controls southern Lebanon -- the Israelis will take the fight all the way to Damascus, and destroy Bashar Assad's regime. If they do, we should applaud them for doing so.

I'll be one of those giving a standing ovation.

But not for killing Arafat, though he richly deserves it.

Whatever....I'll be applauding that as well.

4 posted on 03/03/2003 10:50:12 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
Then [during Gulf War I], only one or two Scuds were hit by the antimissile systems.

And I distinctly remember the military reports during the war claiming that the vast majority of Scuds were in fact successfully intercepted. It was a least a few months before we learned the truth about the impotence of the Patriot ABMs.

The Patriots were, prior to the Gulf War, never intended to be anti-missile missiles. They were designed to be very effective anti-aircraft missiles, but they are so good that someone decided to give them a shot (no pun intended) at shooting down Scuds. This was, as mentioned, not terribly successful after careful analysis, though it looked great on TV (which likely was the intention - to prevent Israel from retaliating because the world could see that we were "defending" them).

The Patriots have been somewhat redesigned (mostly their software and target acquisition radars), so that they will be more successful than 12 years ago. The Arrow, co-developed by the US and Israel, was intended from Day One to be an anti-missile missile, and will (if Saddam launches) probably be more successful than the Patriots. Still, some will get through. See my earlier comments about the likely results if lots of Israelis die as a result.

5 posted on 03/03/2003 10:55:41 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: Mr. Mojo
If Israel destroys Hezbollah, the Syrian terror regime and the PA (and kills Arafag, of course), I will also give a standing ovation. To paraphrase war criminal Julius Streicher as he was being led to the gallows in 1946, "Purimfest, 2003!"
6 posted on 03/03/2003 10:57:52 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: Ancesthntr
If that happens, then the US won't have to worry much about nation-building in Iraq, as Iraq will cease to exist as a nation.

But if such an attack on Israel occurs while our troops are engaged in (or occupying) Baghdad, there's no way Israel would unleash anything that would jeopardize their safety.

Thanks for the info on the ABMs.

7 posted on 03/03/2003 11:04:27 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Ancesthntr
"Purimfest, 2003!"

LOL.....I believe Purim is around March 17th this year.

8 posted on 03/03/2003 11:08:17 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Ancesthntr
Off the subject a bit, I've been itching to get one of these Israeli Jericho 941's (in .45 ACP) for a few months now. I hear they fit the hand very nicely, similar to CZs or Browning HPs. I prefer the safety to be mounted on the frame, however.
9 posted on 03/03/2003 11:16:59 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
But if such an attack on Israel occurs while our troops are engaged in (or occupying) Baghdad, there's no way Israel would unleash anything that would jeopardize their safety.

I fully agree. But remember that you are talking about the nation that literally went halfway around the world to bring Eichmann to justice, a project that took years. They have long memories and the means to comfort themselves that they repaid a bunch of butchers (if, of course, Hussein launches the Scuds and kills hundreds or thousands of Israelis).

10 posted on 03/03/2003 11:19:57 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: Pokey78
This thread was just added to the Free Republic Highlights, 3/04/03 thread.
11 posted on 03/04/2003 3:43:51 AM PST by I Am Not A Mod
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
12 posted on 03/04/2003 5:29:41 AM PST by SJackson
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To: Mr. Mojo
I believe Purim is around March 17th this year.

Begins evening of March 17, continues March 18. March 19 is "Shushan Purim" observed in Jerusalem.

13 posted on 03/04/2003 5:38:49 AM PST by Alouette
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To: Alouette
Did you, by any chance, get to read the letter that PM Sharon signed to Bibi before it disappeared into a safe somewhere?
Sharon is staying on as PM mostly in name only, because if he doesn't, Belgium awaits him. But the reins are held tightly by Netanyahu, and Olmert is so happy he actually has an *official* title, he dosn't even realize that it isn't worth the inscription on his nameplate.
Israel is one thing to the eyes of the world, but she is NOT the kowtowing Peres flunky nation he made her out to be.

Shushan Purim....many years spent with friend in laughter, joy, and games. We are older now, aren't we, Alouette? It means so much more today than all of our growing up years because we are in almost exactly the same position.
It DOES go 'round in circles....although today, they murdered Philipinos, not Jews.
G-d bless them. They never asked to be murdered. Will the Marxist pr*cks care? I understand an American has already been named as one of the many dead.
14 posted on 03/04/2003 6:27:30 AM PST by Nix 2 (In G-d's time, not mine.)
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To: Nix 2
Sharon is staying on as PM mostly in name only, because if he doesn't, Belgium awaits him

Come on, do you really think that Belgium has the power to bring Sharon in for trial? He'd laugh in their faces if they even suggested it. As long as Ariel stays away from Belgian territory, he's completely safe. ...And I'd imagine that's not too much of a sacrifice for him to make.

15 posted on 03/04/2003 9:45:17 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Nix 2
Sharon is staying on as PM mostly in name only, because if he doesn't, Belgium awaits him. But the reins are held tightly by Netanyahu,

Which Israel are you in? Or are you making these assumptions from America? Bibi was just kicked downstairs to the finance ministry. Arik Sharon is definitely in control, and remains firmly in control. The whole reason Silvan Shalom got the foreign ministry was because the Prime Minister can control him, unlike Bibi.

16 posted on 03/04/2003 11:42:28 AM PST by anotherview
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To: Mr. Mojo
No, Belgium cannot bring Ariel Sharon to trial, not now, not ever. Thankfully they are impotent and insignificant.
17 posted on 03/04/2003 11:43:23 AM PST by anotherview
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To: anotherview
Did YOU read the letter? If you haven't, I ask you what Israel YOU are posting from. I read it. What you perceive as a kick *downstairs* is NOT what it seems. You should know what you are speaking of before you say things that have no basis in reality.
You do not have the final picture and you don't know it all. Sharon has many reasons for the position he has taken and for the people he has placed in certain positions to keep a government together.
Now, all you will find is that Bibi got Sharon's agreement and several very important clauses in writing with no hint of what the agreement entailed. Sharon wrote it, signed it, and Arutz printed it. Apparently, it was not for public consumption because it was withdrawn from publication only hours later...but not before many of us read it.
I'm not blind, nor stupid, and my reading comprehension skills are, at the very least, in tact...especially when it concerns something I am intensely interested in.
I don't make assumptions. You know the adage.
18 posted on 03/09/2003 12:58:38 AM PST by Nix 2 (In G-d's time, not mine.)
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