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Is Osama arrested? US forces conducting operation in Balochistan
The Balochistan Post ^ | 030703

Posted on 03/07/2003 5:13:13 AM PST by dep

QUETTA: A major operation was reported to have been conducted in Noshki near Chaghai in Balochistan on Thursday to apprehend the top al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden reportedly hiding there. According to Online News Agency nine alleged al-Qaeda suspects were reported to have been arrested in the raid. But there was no confirmation of this from any source.

Pakistan?s senior officials including ministers and presidential spokesman expressed their ignorance about the mission. Perhaps they were not told about the US forces raid in Pakistan?s territory near the border, as usual.

The agency quoted some officials as claiming that among the captured could be Osama bin Laden or his son. According to sources two US helicopters carrying American commandos landed near Noshki on Wednesday. They also said that a large number of Western correspondents rushed to the site. Reports said that Pakistani troops were also there and the whole day on Thursday a significant troops movement was seen in the area.

These sources said that US officials and Western correspondents were apparently very exited as if they have achieved a big success, meaning they have been able to make a 'big catch'. Sources suggested that the operation near Chaghai could be the follow-up of reports that arrested al-Qaeda suspect Khalid Shaikh Muhammad had told investigators about the whereabouts of Osama.

The detained suspect had reportedly told the investigators that Osama had met him in mountainous regions of frontier areas near Balochistan. Pakistani and US security personnel are also moving to Chaman, bordering city of Balochistan, in a bid to launch operation to apprehend more al-Qaeda activists, suspected of hiding there. Simultaneously, the US troops and Afghan military officials are moving towards Spin Boldak for the hunting operation.

The US planes and helicopters have been continuously flying over the entire tribal belt of Pakistan and Afghanistan in the vicinity. These choppers are also dropping pamphlets in Pushto; Persian and Arabic languages asking general public to assist the officials in hunting Osama bin Laden and get heavy cash reward.

Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed when contacted expressed ignorance about the Chaghai incident. "I don't have any information about this operation. I can't say anything," he told Online.

Presidential spokesman Maj-Gen Rashid Qureshi said he had no knowledge about the incident. "No, nothing. I don't know," he told Online. Earlier, the Pakistani and US agents had narrowed the hunt for Osama to two districts along the Pakistani border with Afghanistan a senior security official said late on Thursday.

"There is a possibility that bin Laden could be hiding in Balochistan close to the Afghan border or in Chaghai," the official said on condition of anonymity. "These areas are being searched," he added.

"I will not say that we are close to the man, but there are some very important pieces of information with us," the official said and added: "If the information is accurate, then he cannot hide for long."

White House Cautious

In Washington White House spokesman Ari Fleischer was cautious about the impact Shaikh Muhammad's capture on the 18-month hunt for bin Laden. "We don't know with precision exactly what the information we're getting will lead to. I would not want to exaggerate or over blow or overestimate anything. We are hopeful that it will lead to considerable information," he told reporters.

A Pakistani spokesman dismissed reports that bin Laden met Khalid in Pakistan in February. "This is totally incorrect. These are efforts by some people to undermine the achievements of our security agencies in the fight against terrorism," the spokesman told AFP.

The New York Times reported that Khalid had met bin Laden, the terror network's chief, in February possibly in Rawalpindi [GHQ?].

Earlier, a senior security official has also said that the report "is sheer conjecture." The official, who was part of the team that interrogated Khalid during his three days in captivity in Pakistan until he was flown to a US detention centre in Afghanistan, told AFP that there was no substance to the claims.

"That's pure conjecture and speculation. There is nothing in the material with us that would suggest that he met bin Laden in Rawalpindi or anywhere in Pakistan in February." The official said Khalid had only arrived in Rawalpindi a few hours before his capture in a dramatic pre-dawn swoop on Saturday by US and Pakistani intelligence commandoes.

The Pakistani intelligence official said Khalid had been in Balochistan in February, during which he narrowly escaped a raid on an Egyptian al-Qaeda suspect's hideout. Khalid revealed during interrogations that he had corresponded with bin Laden in February, via a round-about chain of messengers, the official said. Hand-written letters found with Khalid matched bin Laden's hand-writing, investigators said. Khalid also said bin Laden was alive and "in the region" but insisted he was unaware of his exact location.


 



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1 posted on 03/07/2003 5:13:13 AM PST by dep
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To: dep
I just love our new Office of Strategic Information!
2 posted on 03/07/2003 5:14:54 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (Let's Roll)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
My thoughts exactly.......
3 posted on 03/07/2003 5:18:48 AM PST by TexasNative2000 (When your enemy is making a fool of themselves, just shut up and listen)
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To: dep

4 posted on 03/07/2003 5:28:51 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: dep
I still think he's dead.
5 posted on 03/07/2003 5:29:15 AM PST by b4its2late (If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten.)
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To: Diogenesis
Thanks for the map.
6 posted on 03/07/2003 5:29:48 AM PST by b4its2late (If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten.)
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To: b4its2late
I think he's dead, too. But the #2 man and the rest of his bas***** would be a nice catch.
7 posted on 03/07/2003 5:35:59 AM PST by Sacajaweau (Hillary: Constitutional Scholar! NOT)
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To: b4its2late
DITTOS
8 posted on 03/07/2003 5:36:56 AM PST by AFPhys
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To: dep
Lets add some names to the scorecard.

Its the "You Can't Tell Your Scumbags Without a Scorecard" scorecard
Name Function Status
 
SHURA MAJLIS     
These are the first-tier guys and the actual members of al-Qaeda's board of directors. Any one of them is a possible successor to Osama bin Laden. 
Osama bin Laden Emir-General  Possibly killed at Tora Bora in Dec. 2001, now believed to be at large 
Ayman al-Zawahiri  Second-in-Command/Egyptian Islamic Jihad Emir-General  At Large
Mohammed Atef  Supreme Military Commander  Dead
Abu Zubaydah  Global Operations Chief  Apprehended 
Rifa Ahmed Taha  Gamaa al-Islamiyyah Secretary-General  At Large
Thirwat Salah Shirhata  Egyptian Islamic Jihad Deputy Emir  At Large
Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri  Middle East Operations Chief  Apprehended 
Abu Musab Zarqawi  Former Southeast Asian Operations Chief, currently Global Operations Chief  At Large
Abu Zubair al-Haili  North African Operations Chief  Apprehended
Tawfiq Attash Khallad  South Asian Operations Chief  At Large
Abu Mohammed al-Masri * East African Operations Chief  At Large
Zaid Khayr  Unknown At Large
Mohammed Salah  Senior Explosive Expert, Central African Operations Chief  Dead
Tariq Anwar al-Sayyid Ahmad  Balkans Operations Chief  Dead 
Saif al-Adel ** Former second-in-command of al-Qaeda's military, currently Supreme Military Commander At Large
Amin al-Haq  Shura Majlis Security Chief  At Large
Abu Hafs the Mauritanian (aka "Mr. Mauritania")  Theologian Formerly believed dead, now believed to be at large 
 
TERRORIST TRAINING CAMP COMMANDERS  
These are the guys who supervise the training, indoctrination, and assignment of al-Qaeda operatives worldwide. They also seperate all recruits into four categories: mujahideen (foot soldiers), shahideen (suicide bombers), takfiri (sleepers), and ansar (support personnel). Each category has its own version of the "Afghan Guide to Jihad," al-Qaeda's training manual (all four versions combined are roughly 3,000 pages in length) that provides instruction to recruits for just about any situation imaginable. 
Sheikh Ibn al-Liby  Terrorist Training Camp Commander  Apprehended
Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi  Terrorist Training Camp Commander  Apprehended 
Omar Bandon Terrorist Training Camp Commander  At Large
 
THE FINANCIAL COMMITTEE    
This is the committee that oversees al-Qaeda's legitimate and illegitimate businesses, charities, drug smuggling, ect. The top ten al-Qaeda donors have all been named by both the UN and the families of 9/11 victims as being the major financiers of al-Qaeda and remain at large
Sheikh Saeed (Mustafa Ahmed al-Hisawi?)  Head of the Financial Committee  Apprehended 
Mohammed Jamal Khalifa  Financier and envoy to the Saudi Bin Laden Group At Large
Abu Jafar al-Jaziri  Financier Dead 
Abu Salah al-Yemeni  Financier Dead 
Abdul Rahim Riyadh  Financier Apprehended 
Ahmed Saeed al-Kadr  Financier  At Large
Hamza al-Qatari  Financier  Dead 
 
MEDIA COMMITTEE    
This the group that manages and updates the websites, oversees the E-Jihad, and is responsible for all statements by the al-Qaeda leadership. Not a lot of declassified info on this one as far as names go.
Suleiman Abu Ghaith Spokesman  At Large
Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Masri  Spokesman/Recruiter  At Large
Sheikh Omar al-Bakri  Spokesman  At Large
Sheikh Abu Qatada al-Philisteeni  Spokesman Apprehended 
 
WMD COMMITTEE     
Al-Qaeda employs a number of Muslim scientists of various nationalities to assist it in procuring as well as manufacturing the necessary materials to create chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear weapons. 
Midhat Mursi  Top scientist for nuclear weapons research  At Large
Abu Khabab  Biological and chemical weapons expert  At Large
Assadalah Abdul Rahman  Weapons of Mass Destruction Chief  At Large
Abu Bashir al-Yemeni  Unknown At Large
 
MILITARY COMMITTEE     
These are the definite guys to watch out for. Most have a great deal of combat experience either from serving in Arab militaries or else from fighting in Sudan, Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Indonesia, or the Philippines. 
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Martyrdom Battalion Commander-in-Chief  Apprehended 
Abd al-Aziz al-Jamal  Unknown  At Large 
Bilal bin Marwan  Arabian Sea Commander-in-Chief  At Large 
Qaed Salim Sinan al-Harethi  Yemen Commander-in-Chief  Dead 
Mohsen al-Fadli  Kuwait Commander-in-Chief  Apprehended 
Essid Sami ben Khemais Southern Europe Commander-in-Chief  Apprehended 
Saqar al-Jadawi  Unknown At Large
Mohammed Omar Abdel Rahman Military Commander  Apprehended 
Ahmed Omar Abdel Rahman  Military Commander  Apprehended 
Abu Walid  Military Commander  At Large 
Abdel Hari al-Iraqi  Afghanistan Commander-in-Chief  At Large 
Abu Leith al-Lybi  Algeria/Libya Commander-in-Chief  At Large 
Shamil Basayev  Chechnya Commander-in-Chief  At Large
Amir ibn al-Khattab  Dagestan Commander-in-Chief  Dead 
Hanbali  Indonesia Commander-in-Chief  At Large
Imam Samudra  Java Commander-in-Chief  Apprehended 
Mas Selamat Kastari  Singapore Commander-in-Chief  Apprehended
Current Tally:
Dead=8 Apprehended=15 At Large=29
Others    
 These are non-leader Al Qaeda members who are on the FBI most wanted list or have, in some way, come to attention.. 
Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah  African Embassy Bomber At Large
Sheik Mohammed Al Hasan Al-Moayad Financier / Cleric Apprehended
Mohammed Mohsen Yahya Zayed Financier / Cleric Apprehended
Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser  Khobar Towers Bomber At Large
Muhsin Musa Matwalli Atwah African Embassy Bomber At Large
Ali Atwa Flight 847 (Lebanon) Hijacker At Large
Hasan Izz-Al-Din  Flight 847 (Lebanon) Hijacker At Large
Anas Al-Liby African Embassy Bomber At Large
Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani African Embassy Bomber At Large
Ahmed Mohammed Hamed Ali African Embassy Bomber At Large
Fazul Abdullah Mohammed African Embassy Bomber At Large
Imad Fayez Mugniyah Flight 847 (Lebanon) Hijacker At Large
Mustafa Mohamed Fadhil African Embassy Bomber At Large
Sheikh Ahmed Salim Swedan African Embassy Bomber At Large
Abdul Rahman Yasin 1993 WTC Bombing At Large
Fahid Mohammed Ally Msalam African Embassy Bomber At Large
Ahmad Ibrahim Al-Mughassil Khobar Towers Bomber At Large
Muhammad Atef African Embassy Bomber At Large
Ali Saed Bin Ali El-Hoorie Khobar Towers Bomber At Large
Saif Al-Adel African Embassy Bomber At Large
Ibrahim Salih Mohammed Al-Yacoub African Embassy Bomber At Large
Current Tally:
*Note: There has been some contradictory information as to the status of this individual. Abu Mohammed al-Masri is a nom de guerre, hence one should not confuse him with the al-Qaeda functionary of the same name who was recently killed in Algeria working with the GSPC. Mossad reportedly had intelligence that al-Masri might have been one of the suicide bombers involved in the al-Qaeda attack in Mombasa, but near as I can tell the findings were not corroborated

**Note: Per Knight Ridder, he may have been captured along with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. If this is indeed true it would be exceedingly good news.

A Freeper Production-SV

9 posted on 03/07/2003 5:37:32 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (I don't believe in hyphenating Americans)
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To: Sacajaweau
Yes. That's right. Get all of them. #2, #4, #5, #6 ... and anyone that attempts to take their place....
10 posted on 03/07/2003 5:39:45 AM PST by b4its2late (If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten.)
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To: dep

I Surrender!

11 posted on 03/07/2003 5:41:33 AM PST by NYer (Kyrie Eleison)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Hey that's cool. Is that on it's own thread somewhere? If so, can I have the link so I can bookmark? If not, would you make one, so I can bookmark? Thanks.
12 posted on 03/07/2003 5:41:59 AM PST by b4its2late (If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten.)
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To: b4its2late
I still think he's dead.

I used to think that, but not anymore after the last arrest of K.S. Mohammad found with the letters from OBL written within the last two weeks.

Do ALL of these arresties have the same name, Mohammad?

13 posted on 03/07/2003 5:42:31 AM PST by sirchtruth
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To: Diogenesis
THANKS! You wouldn't happen to know where exactly Balochistan is on the map, would you?
If its marked I need more coffee.
One would assume from the context of the article that it is in the mountains near Quetta
14 posted on 03/07/2003 5:46:12 AM PST by Scarlet_Pimpernil ( There is a time for peace, and a time for war...let's roll)
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To: Straight Vermonter; b4its2late
I second the motion.
15 posted on 03/07/2003 5:49:00 AM PST by nina0113
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To: Straight Vermonter
Nice! Thanks for the effort.
16 posted on 03/07/2003 5:54:05 AM PST by InfraRed
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To: nina0113; Straight Vermonter; b4its2late; Admin Moderator
I second the motion.

If we're following Roberts Rules, we need to bring this to a full vote before the motion passes. All in favor of making Straight Vermonter's AQ Score Card a new thread say AYE...

17 posted on 03/07/2003 5:56:08 AM PST by jriemer
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To: sirchtruth
Do ALL of these arresties have the same name, Mohammad?

I'd estimate that around half of all Muslim males have 'Mohammad' somewhere in their name. There are around 600 million Muslim males, so that's around 300 million or so Mohammads. ....1/20 of the world's population.

18 posted on 03/07/2003 5:57:28 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Straight Vermonter
East African Operations Chief: I thought Abu Mohammed al-Masri was the guy that just died in the car bomb incident.

Correct, or two guys with the same name?

19 posted on 03/07/2003 5:59:33 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: jriemer
AYE!
20 posted on 03/07/2003 5:59:37 AM PST by BullDog108 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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