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To: Pharmboy
Repeat after me:

"Corellation is NOT Causation."
"Corellation is NOT Causation."
"Corellation is NOT Causation."
"Corellation is NOT Causation."
"Corellation is NOT Causation."
"Corellation is NOT Causation."
"Corellation is NOT Causation."
"Corellation is NOT Causation."
"Corellation is NOT Causation."

Now. What do the numbers look like in other countries. What other factors are involved in these women and their states of mind. Are their other disease/risk factors also involved. Ect...

Has everyone on that side of the pond tossed out the whole scientific method thing?

6 posted on 03/07/2003 7:03:55 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse; newgeezer
There would almost certainly be a relationship to they types of women who get implants and the types who commit suicide. They are both extremely self centered acts. Selfless women like my wife would never consider either.
7 posted on 03/07/2003 7:06:18 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: Dead Corpse
Thanks for your lesson, but I am well-aware of the limitations of observational studies, associations and causality.

And, for your benefit, you should know that no one in the article said that breast implants CAUSED suicides, only that there was an association. Think more before you act like an obnoxious pedant (note that I did not call you an obnoxious pedant, but only observed that for a brief moment you acted like one).

Best,
PB

12 posted on 03/07/2003 7:19:19 AM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to)
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To: Dead Corpse
"Corellation is NOT Causation."

The way I read the article, they don't seem to be implying causation. The only realtion hinted at seems to be in the psychological state of women seeking breast implants and of women committing suicide. It's like old statistics on suicides at the Golden Gate bridge. The bridge doesn't cause the suicides, but a higher than mormal number of people travelling to the bridge from across the nation are suicidal compared with the normal population. They reach the bridge and find out it's the end of their quest and, having no further goal or hope for thier lives, no place further to travel to looking for personal meaning, decide to end their lives there as well.

13 posted on 03/07/2003 7:21:48 AM PST by templar
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To: Dead Corpse
The idiots at Reuters wrote a somewhat misleading headline, which is pretty much par for the course in journalism nowadays.
15 posted on 03/07/2003 7:28:33 AM PST by jpl
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To: Dead Corpse
Yaea you know that All people that commit suicide have drank some water in the days if not hours before death

Go Figure
25 posted on 03/07/2003 8:00:22 AM PST by al baby
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To: Dead Corpse
Has everyone on that side of the pond tossed out the whole scientific method thing?

I think you got a bit ahead of yourself here DC. At the beginning of the article it says, "it could be linked to problems such as lack of self-esteem or poor body image". It makes a certain amount of sense that many people who want to improve their body image have psychological problems associated with that, thinking that this change will bring about significant change in their lives. When it doesn't . . .

30 posted on 03/07/2003 9:31:12 AM PST by realpatriot71 (legalize freedom!)
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