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To: JohnGalt
Wislonianism: Going to war to make the world safe for Democracy.

With all do respect, we are hardly Wilsonian. If we were, we would invade Africa and Democratize all of those countries. They would be far easier than Iraq.

We are attacking Iraq because Ba'athist (Pan-Arab National Socialist) Regimes alligning themselves with Islamist regimes and supporting terrorists are threats to the US. It is in our national interest to do so.
Now you may disagree. However, to call all pro-war folks Wilsonian is false.
As for Barnes, he probably is a Neo-Wilsonian. PS. You might be interest in the Paleo blog run by Jim Kalb and Larry Auster www.counterrevolution.net/vfr/

23 posted on 03/07/2003 4:39:23 PM PST by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: rmlew
The only conservative argument for the war is the one that the Bush team is not making. Saddam represents an uppity, backward nation in a failing backward culture. He is a logical person to make an example of in the hope of convincing other Arab members of the ruling class to get their homes in order.

Rather, the Bush Team, featuring anti-Christians and certainly anti-Conservatives, Condi Rice, Colin Powell and Fred Barbes, telling us that the war is about how awful Saddam treats his people; How Islam is really a religion of peace; how Iraq has weapons of mass destruction (who doesn't these days?); how we keep letting these people into our country...

So long as the Bush team frames the war in liberal rhetoric, the policy should be rejected by Conservatives.

But the war is a given at this point and many innocent people will die, and hopefully, Bush will be right and we will be better off. But one things for sure, if there is another terrorist attack 10 years from now in response to what happens in Iraq today, the neo-cons and the hawks will claim no responsibility, just as liberal welfare-state leftists take no responsibility for the destruction of black American society when they unleashed the war on poverty.

If the unintended consequences of Gulf War One was 9/11, why are we allowing Perle/Wolfowitz/Cheney/Rummy still steer this ship?

I will check out your link, thank you. I am a paleo-libertarian in the Yankee merchant tradition and there is plenty of disagreement between myself and my neo-confederate and prarie populist friends, but we all seem to know liberalism when we hear it.
25 posted on 03/08/2003 6:18:37 AM PST by JohnGalt
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