[JohnGalt]

That logic follows the liberal tradition of justifying every federalized handout as constitutional under the 'General Welfare' clause.

Even, worse, the hawks have used the tactics of the left to convince themselves the George Washington had no idea what the world would be like when he warned against "searching for foreign monsters to destroy." You can disagree with him, you can say he had no idea what the world would be like today, but at some point, you cease to be a conservative and become merely a pawn in the whims of the political ruling class of the day.

[jiggyboy]

I'll mostly concede or plead No Contest. Before I wrote my first post here at FR I wrote on my home page that "I would fail many of the litmus tests of a true Conservative".

But re "foreign monsters", we aren't "searching" for the Muslims because we're bored; they found us. As Los Angeles and San Diego have foretold and continue to fortell the future for the Silicon Valley re language problems, race conflicts, general lawlessness, etc., Israel is the early indication of what will happen to the U.S. if the Muslims are allowed to continue their war against civilization.