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To: nicmarlo
How many of those Iranians who recieved those weapons ended up training someone that attacked US interests? THAT is wrong, and you fail, you FAIL to grasp that reality.

How often do you see an official representative of the US Admin stand next to a known Terrorist organization? Has the US ever stood in partnership with known terrorists?

Name one time a Serb ever collaberated with a terrorist organization, that was sanctioned by that persons (Serb or American citizen) own government? C'mon, please do tell.

42 posted on 03/09/2003 10:47:55 AM PST by smokegenerator (www.pedalinpeace.org ---- Serbian Cycling Challenge for the Children of Serbia)
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To: smokegenerator
Now your argument has another logic flaw, that of a "Red Herring."

A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:

Topic A is under discussion.
Topic B is introduced under the guise of being relevant to topic A (when topic B is actually not relevant to topic A).
Topic A is abandoned.

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because merely changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim.

We, none of us, are mindreaders--something you now claim must be in place in order to trust future dealings made by our Administration. Rather, we must believe that others are pressed to a higher calling--BELIEVING others will act in the best interests of their peoples. Otherwise, there can never be any treaties made, any positions taken, because we cannot read minds or ever truly know a person's character.

Just because the Iranians FAILED to live up to past promises/expections does not mean that all future dealings with the Iranian PEOPLE should be treated AS IF they will always be dishonoest. And the transgressions of IRANIAN people does not equate to transgressions of IRAQI people; or, in the reverse, if Serbs appear to be honest, this does not mean they shall ALWAYS be honest or that they are the ONLY honest peoples.

47 posted on 03/09/2003 11:05:37 AM PST by nicmarlo (** UNDER GOD **)
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