[Hank Kerchief]

Actually, that would be a logical fallacy. Consciousness could be a subset of the Brain Development superset, but not intersect with any other superset. Thus Brain Development would determine consciousness, but not all subsets under Brain Development (such as different brain activities) would necessarily interspect the Consciousness subset.

If your premise is that consciousness is an emergent quality of the brain or, "brain activity," your argument might succeed, but even the assumption that Consciousness could be a subset of the Brain Development superset has no objective basis and is unsupported.

Since consciousness is non-demonstrable, (there is no objective evidence of any consciouness, and we only known are own because we are conscious), there is no reason to suppose it is an emergent quality in the first place.

Hank

[Hajman]

If your premise is that consciousness is an emergent quality of the brain or, "brain activity," your argument might succeed, but even the assumption that Consciousness could be a subset of the Brain Development superset has no objective basis and is unsupported.

I never stated that it was an emergent quality of the brain. I simply gave an example in which your statement didn't work, thus showing your statement was logically invalid.

Since consciousness is non-demonstrable, (there is no objective evidence of any consciouness, and we only known are own because we are conscious), there is no reason to suppose it is an emergent quality in the first place.

Actually, certain brave wave patterns can determine levels of consciousness (or sub-consciousness, including lucidity levels in REM states). Along with consciousness comes awareness, and there are very specific tests one can use to determine awareness (or even self-awareness, and cognition levels, such as levels of association). EEG readouts can give consciousness information, and certain logic tests can give cognition information.

-The Hajman-

[GopherIt]

The fallacy in your arrogant approach is the fact that sleep, which you define as total unconsciousness, is an absolutely necessary precursive condition for the occurence of measurable consciousness.