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Should Christians always oppose war?
Cape Cod Times | 3/9/03 | Rev. Edward Voosen

Posted on 03/10/2003 11:36:53 AM PST by LivFREEordie

Should Christians always oppose war?

Here is a sermon delivered last Sunday to about 100 teenagers from across New England, including 25 from Cape Cod

By THE REV. EDWARD VOOSEN, the Cape Cod Times, 03/09/03

Pope John Paul II recently sent a special envoy to Baghdad to support peace. Some Lutheran and Methodist bishops have spoken out against the possible war. Christians around the world have marched with others against it.

These sentiments were also expressed 10 years ago in the first Gulf War. But if the United States and her allies had not liberated Kuwait, we wonder what the Middle East would be like today?

My purpose today is to look at moral issues related to a possible war with Iraq.

First, the pacifist position has always been a respected minority position among Christians. A classic pacifist is one who opposes and will not participate in any violence. Many Christians have been pacifists over the last 2,000 years, but the majority of Christians have not held that view.

In the classic sense, Jesus was not a pacifist. If you had asked the moneychangers in the temple if Jesus was a pacifist, they would have replied,"Are you kidding? He drove us out with a whip!"

Swords for self-defense Jesus allowed his disciples to carry swords, and the swords were not for killing snakes. They were for self-defense.

At one point, Jesus said, "If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."

Simon Peter replied, "Look Lord, we have two swords."

"That's sufficient," Jesus said (Luke 22:36-38).

At least one of Jesus' disciples was a Zealot. He was part of a group dedicated to the violent overthrow of the Roman Empire.

Blessed are peacemakers While Jesus was not a pacifist, a primary thrust of his life and ministry was against violence and war. After all, he said,"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God" (Matthew 5:9).

Second, the New Testament ethic for individuals differs from the mandate for national leaders. Jesus' famous Sermon on the Mount is directed primarily at individual Christians.

Jesus said,"If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also."

We Christians, acting as individuals, are not supposed to retaliate. Indeed, we are supposed to return good for evil.

A different responsibility But our president, as a head of state, has a different responsibility, spelled out in Romans 13:1-5: "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities; for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God.

"Therefore, whoever resists authority resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

"For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you wish to have no fear of the authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive its approval; for it is God's servant working for your good. But if you do what is wrong, you should be afraid, for the authority does not bear the sword in vain! It is the servant of God to execute wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore, one must be subject, not only because of wrath but also because of conscience."

As head of state, the president's job, the job of government, is to"execute wrath on the wrongdoer." The Bible recognizes that if there were no enforcers of justice, chaos would prevail. The national ruler is clearly authorized to use force. The Bible says,"for the authority does not bear the sword in vain!"

Delivering justice As an .individual Christian, I am supposed to relate to other individuals with kindness rather than force. But if I am in the U.S. armed forces, acting under the command of the president, I become his means of delivering justice to the evildoer.

"But pastor,"you might ask,"aren't Jesus' standards for individual behavior contradictory to the tasks of the national leader in Romans 13?"

The two exist in tension, always reminding us that even when the national leader has to use lethal force, this is not God's ideal plan. It is like the tension between the 4th and 5th commandments. The 4th tells us to honor authorities and the 5th not to kill.

The tragedy of war Third, war is always a tragedy. One of the contributions of Stephen Spielberg's classic World War II movie, "Saving Private Ryan," was to remind us of the horrors of war. Our veterans know that truth all too well. Because of the awful suffering brought about by any war, church doctrine notes that "We deplore war and urge the peaceful settlement of all disputes among nations."

Isaiah, the prophet, revealed God's plan for a world in which "nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore" (Isaiah 2:4b).

The Psalmist saw God working toward the same goal."He makes wars cease to the ends of the earth; he breaks the bow and shatters the spear, he burns the shields with fire" (Ps. 46:9).

About 20 years ago, a member of my church was dying of cancer. Shortly before his death, he said to me: "I was a bombardier on a B-29 during World War II. I killed lots of people. If I had to do it over, I would. It was essential that we win that war. But that still does not make it right. I want to confess and ask forgiveness for the necessity of killing all those people."

We prayed together. I was so deeply impressed by this man who understood that just because something is necessary does not make it good or right. There is no place in Christianity for a "jihad," a holy war. We never baptize a war. Even when war is necessary, it is still a tragedy.

Unchecked tyranny Fourth, on rare occasions, the alternatives to war are worse than war. Listen to a statement from a denominational book of discipline: "We acknowledge that most Christians regretfully realize that, when peaceful alternatives have failed, the force of arms may be preferable to unchecked aggression, tyranny, or genocide."

William Sloane Coffin declared recently, "War is a cowardly escape from the possibility of peace." Don't try to tell that to the brave men and women who helped defeat Hitler in World War II. Surely no reasonable person believes the world would have been better if Hitler had not been defeated.

Indeed, many historians believe that if the British and French had intervened in 1936 when Hitler illegally occupied the Rhineland, World War II could have been prevented. The League of Nations was unwilling to enforce its own mandate, and the League died.

In 1991, Europeans attempted to solve the problems in Yugoslavia without American help. But when the situation in Kosovo degenerated into genocide, no other nation was willing to act without American leadership. The U.S.-led coalition stopped the genocide and brought war criminals to justice. I don't know of any responsible leader who suggests that our intervention in Yugoslavia was a mistake.

A change of heart The great German Lutheran Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a pacifist at the beginning of World War II. Yet, before the war ended, he had become part of a failed plot to assassinate Hitler. The Gestapo imprisoned him. He died at age 39 on a Nazi gallows, stripped of clothes and dignity.

His close friend and biographer, Eberhard Bethge, said this about Bonhoeffer's decision to try to kill Hitler: "A Christian should not kill. But there are times you are responsible for human beings around you, and you have to think about all means to stop that man who is killing."

Fifth, thankfully, church tradition assists us in making decisions about war. St. Augustine's guidelines for a just war are still helpful.

Let's look at those guidelines. First, a legitimate authority must declare the war. In other words, wars must not start because of a personal grudge or an accident. A sovereign head of state must make the decision. Second, the war must be carried out with the right intention. The purpose must be to protect or restore peace, not to seize land or oil.

A last resort Third, the war can be approved only as a last resort. Other alternatives must be tried first. Some say that not all the other alternatives have been exhausted in the Iraq situation. Others disagree, saying that 12 years and 17 U.N. resolutions are enough.

Fourth, the war must be waged on the basis of the principle of proportionality. The good to be accomplished by the war must outweigh the suffering and killing that will be unleashed by the war.

Fifth, the war must have a reasonable chance of success.

Sixth, the war must be waged with all the moderation possible. That is, the accepted rules of The Hague and Geneva Conventions must be followed. To the greatest extent possible, civilians and prisoners of war must be protected.

Special considerations Finally, there are some special considerations in this conflict with Iraq. U.N. Resolution 1441 does not just demand the right for inspectors to search for weapons of mass destruction. It demands that Iraq disarm and prove it has disarmed. Where are the 25,000 liters of anthrax the Iraqis had before 1998? Where are the 30,000 Iraqi munitions capable of delivering chemical or biological weapons? The inspectors have thus far accounted for only 17. Iraq has not produced any.

How long can the international community wait? What is a sensible midpoint between a rush to war, on one hand, and an irresponsible flirtation with disaster, on the other? Do we really believe that Saddam has used the days of February to comply with U.N. guidelines, or is he planning something else?

Jesus urged us to be "as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves"(Matthew 10:16). Is President Bush correct when he says that "Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not an option"?

If the United States, Britain and the other allies were to bring their troops home tomorrow and trust that economic sanctions alone will cause Saddam Hussein to behave, would that promote peace or simply convince him and other dictators that they can defy the United Nations with impunity?

President Bush and other national leaders must answer these questions. We must pray for them continually.

It's high noon Let me close by asking you to recall one of my favorite movies, "High Noon," starring Gary Cooper. The movie is 50 years old. Cooper was the sheriff of a small western town. Earlier, a gang of four outlaw brothers had terrorized the town. The sheriff had brought them to justice and sent them to prison. In prison they vowed that when they got out they would kill the sheriff.

The movie focuses on one particular day. The sheriff had just married a woman who happens to be a devout Quaker, utterly opposed to all violence. The sheriff resigns from law enforcement and the couple is about to leave town on their honeymoon.

Suddenly, word comes that the outlaw brothers have been released from prison and are due to arrive that day on the noon train. Everybody urges the couple to get out of town quickly. They ride away, but the sheriff is troubled.

Finally, he turns the wagon around and heads back to town, much to the consternation of his bride. He cannot stand to run away from his old enemies. He knows if they are not confronted, they will not just disappear but will follow after him until there is a resolution to the problem. He pins the badge back on his shirt.

Seeking help Quickly, he tries to round up a posse. It's a Sunday morning and lots of folks are at church. The sheriff interrupts the service, explains the emergency, and asks the men of the congregation to help him form a posse.

One of them says, "We'd like to help you, Sheriff, but we're not trained gunmen. That's what we hire sheriffs for."

Another says, "You know, Sheriff, we Christians don't believe in violence."

Another says, "Sheriff, you're a brave man but it would probably have been wiser if you had not come back to town."

The sheriff turns and walks out in disgust. In the background, one hears Tex Ritter Lane singing that unforgettable theme song: "I do not know what fate awaits me; I only know I must be brave, and I must face the man who hates me, or lie a coward, a craven coward, or lie a coward in my grave."

How does the movie relate to the crisis with Iraq? Nations are so interconnected now that the world could be compared to a small western town. The United Nations, through countless resolutions, has declared Saddam Hussein to be an outlaw. The job of sheriff has been thrust on President Bush. We are like those citizens in church. We must prayerfully decide how big a threat the outlaw is, and what we should do about it.

May God grant us wisdom and courage. God bless the United States, and may freedom and justice be God's gifts to the entire world.

The Rev. Edward Voosen is pastor of Bethel Lutheran Church in Auburn, Mass. He delivered the sermon at Calumet Lutheran Conference Center in West Ossipee, N.H. Voosen, a native of New York City, attended New York Theological Seminary and Princeton Seminary.


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To: LivFREEordie
A real good topic......for the Religion Forum.
21 posted on 03/10/2003 12:54:25 PM PST by Consort
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To: RnMomof7
Thanks for the ping and info. I'm surprised that King is having these three on. I would have thought he'd rather chew the common fat with someone more like-minded such as Tony Campolo....

The Romans verse is key and one that liberals like to ignore. On the other hand, conservatives often forget that "...the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men." (Daniel 4) That means, of course, that He gave us Clinton, just as He permitted evil kings in Israel, etc. All that, because of our sin, prayerlessness, and for having forgotten Him. I know those 8 years certainly got my attention.....

22 posted on 03/10/2003 1:05:37 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
Yep He gave us Clinton too..perhaps some day we will understand why:>)
23 posted on 03/10/2003 1:12:34 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: VOA
Certainly, one cannot ignore the Old testament scriptures: God directed to take their promised lands by force as a means of cleansing out the pagan peoples that populated the area. Time and time again, God went before Israel in battle -- and left them to their own devices when they dissed Him as well.

It was a different era, but not every battle was waged with fire coming down from heaven or with ten divine plagues. Sometimes the Godly had to actually go out and do it.

And those who think Jesus just sat around in the meadows petting sheep, feeding the 5000, and endlessly preaching the Beatitudes just aren't reading enough.

24 posted on 03/10/2003 1:20:08 PM PST by alancarp (anti-Hollywood idiots petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/hollywoodceleb/)
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To: LivFREEordie
A clarification......
When Jesus said ""But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."....most people conviently leave out the next line...."It is written: 'And he was numbered with the transgressors'"

And IMHO, when Jesus says "that is enough", he is not referring to the quantity of swords, but He is saying...Enough of this talk about swords.
25 posted on 03/10/2003 1:21:14 PM PST by newcats
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To: alancarp
I left out a word: "...God directed ISRAEL to take their promised lands..."
26 posted on 03/10/2003 1:21:22 PM PST by alancarp (anti-Hollywood idiots petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/hollywoodceleb/)
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To: Charles Henrickson
Thanks for posting that, it was good to read about christians who see the fundamental faith that guides this President's actions, and the wisdom that comes from this.

Like when he was choked up saying God Bless America during the address on the Columbia disaster, or even during the latest press conference when he spoke of others who he'll never meet praying for him. How can anyone of faith not see he is one of their own? Shame on that for ignoring this because of their partisanship.

God Bless George W Bush.
27 posted on 03/10/2003 1:21:48 PM PST by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Reagan must have done alot of good to be hated by the left this bad)
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To: Consort
Religious perspectives on current events should not be relegated to the basement. Neither are Christians (such as this author) the ugly stepchild that needs to be hid in the attic.
28 posted on 03/10/2003 1:23:31 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: newcats
And IMHO, when Jesus says "that is enough", he is not referring to the quantity of swords, but He is saying...Enough of this talk about swords.

Yes - you're right: I picture Jesus kind of doing a big sigh, shaking his head ('cause Peter missed His point AGAIN), and then saying "yeah -- that's plenty."

29 posted on 03/10/2003 1:24:01 PM PST by alancarp (anti-Hollywood idiots petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/hollywoodceleb/)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
You put that so well. Wish I'd said it. Shame on them also for spewing such hatred toward a brother in Christ, for the sake of their desire for power.
30 posted on 03/10/2003 1:25:55 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: ncdrumr
Charles Stanley did a great sermon on this topic.

Yes, I saw a sermon he did on TV about this...he is an excellent Bible teacher.

31 posted on 03/10/2003 1:28:55 PM PST by Jorge
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To: LivFREEordie
Bump!

32 posted on 03/10/2003 1:29:10 PM PST by k2blader (Please do not feed the Tag Lion. ®oar.)
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To: anniegetyourgun; Consort
Religious perspectives on current events should not be relegated to the basement. Neither are Christians (such as this author) the ugly stepchild that needs to be hid in the attic.

Thank you! I agree. One of the things I feared when FR split off "Religion" into its own forum was exactly the kind of reaction you are rebutting. Now if we were having a purely "in-house" religious discussion--say, on the intricacies of sacramental theology--then that should properly belong in the "Religion" forum. But here, where biblical/theological perspectives are brought to bear on matters in the public square, then there is no reason why they should not be heard in this forum.

33 posted on 03/10/2003 1:33:26 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Theological and political conservative)
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To: xzins; drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; RnMomof7
"Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not an option" - GW Bush.

Most miss this guy's biblical references because of the high degree of biblical illiteracy in this country. Who is one of Saddam's (unrestrained) heroes? And didn't that 'hero' spend a period of time under the thumb of God in insanity because of his arrogance? Clearly this use of words was designed for Saddam's consumption.

34 posted on 03/10/2003 1:36:42 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: RnMomof7
St. Augustine understood that the state is a God-ordained institution and that its primary leader is "God’s servant...who does not bear the sword for nothing...but is an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the evildoer."

Of course, the part in quotation marks did not originate with St. Augustine but with St. Paul (Romans 13).

35 posted on 03/10/2003 1:39:01 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Ph.D. student, Biblical Studies [New Testament])
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To: RnMomof7; xzins; Charles Henrickson; LivFREEordie
I would prefer to live in a chaotic world of violence and uncertainty, safe in the knowledge that God is sovereign in all things, than to live a placid and peaceful existence, ignorant of God's control.

Whether we choose to acknowledge it or not, this IS a war against Islam. Islam is an enemy of Christianity. And Islam will be defeated.

36 posted on 03/10/2003 1:57:19 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: LivFREEordie
PSALM 149:6-9 --
Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, And a two-edged sword in their hand, To execute vengeance on the nations and punishment on the peoples, To bind their kings with chains and their nobles with fetters of iron, to execute on them the judgment written; This is an honor for all His godly ones. Praise the LORD!
37 posted on 03/10/2003 1:58:41 PM PST by My2Cents ("...The bombing begins in 5 minutes.")
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To: LivFREEordie
Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight...
...that there be no complaining in our streets. Happy is that people, that is in such a case: yea, happy is that people, whose God is the LORD.
38 posted on 03/10/2003 2:31:17 PM PST by Theophilus
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To: RnMomof7; LivFREEordie; Charles Henrickson; Alamo-Girl; alancarp; xzins; drstevej
RnMomof7 ;LivFREEordie ;Charles Henrickson ;Alamo-Girl ; alancarp ;xzins; drstevej

It is like the tension between the 4th and 5th commandments. The 4th tells us to honor authorities and the 5th not to kill.

1 posted on 03/10/2003 12:36 PM MST by LivFREEordie

The author misunderstands the original text

The Greek is very clear and the Hebrew is very clear :

It does not say KILL, it says MURDER.

We are prohibited from committing MURDER.

There is no tension between the 4th and the 5th commandment; G-d wrote both.

Acts 17:11 Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the
Thessalonians, for they received the message with great
eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if
what Paul said was true.

chuck <truth@YeshuaHaMashiach>

39 posted on 03/10/2003 2:54:12 PM PST by Uri’el-2012
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To: RnMomof7
Personally, I don't know any Christians (including me) who would oppose a truly just war. The question we are facing is this: does an attack on a sovereign nation that has not attacked us constitute a "just war"?
40 posted on 03/10/2003 2:54:59 PM PST by sheltonmac
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