[Fraulein]

Without those laws enforceable by the state you would not lay claim to property.

It is the other way around. I justly lay claim to property. The laws of the state do not grant me that property, or that right to property, but rather they serve only to help me defend it.

[VRWC_minion]

Name a property that exists outside the state. Real property ? No. Personal property, No. Intangible property ? No. Corporate stock ? No.

Your belief that your property rights exist apart from the state is fantasy.