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Truly unbelievable.
1 posted on 03/11/2003 12:25:39 PM PST by FourPeas
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To: FourPeas
We had an event like this in Oregon years ago. Destroyed a young girl's face, and eventually destroyed the parent's marraige.
2 posted on 03/11/2003 12:32:58 PM PST by aimhigh
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I say like I`m bored lets drop teens from the bridge onto trucks
3 posted on 03/11/2003 12:38:03 PM PST by goose1
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Defense attorneys argued the teens shouldn't be tried on the charges because they never intended to hurt anybody. "Where's the intent?" said Kooiman's attorney, Karen Constantine. "I have seen none. I have heard none."

"Officer, when I shot that gun I didn't intend to hit anyone, so how can you charge me with murder?"

Ms. Constantine should be disbarred.

Someone from my church youth group was killed by one of these brick droppers a few years back. She left behind a husband and two kids. They never caught the b*stard. I'm sure if the culprit had been identified that Ms. Constantine would say "there was no intent to kill anyone, so where's the crime?".

4 posted on 03/11/2003 12:38:44 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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Just a couple months ago my wife and I went out to grab a quick bite to eat. As we drove down a hilly road toward the main state route a huge ice ball the size of a bowling ball came flying out of the bushes and smashed into my windshield. The roads were icy and wet and I swerved and kept the car from going over an embankment. When I ascertained that my wife was okay I turned the car around and sped up the driveway where the huge ice ball came from. Two boys about 14 and 15 ran up to my car and said that they didn't do it. I knew it was them and called 911. Their mother came out and allowed me to give them the third degree until the sheriff showed up. I told the sheriff that I wouldn't press charges on the condition that the sheriff would scare the living hell out of them. He agreed and we went on our way.

Not funny at all...
5 posted on 03/11/2003 12:41:18 PM PST by TSgt (“If I do my full duty, the rest will take care of itself.” - General George S. Patton)
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Defense attorneys argued the teens shouldn't be tried on the charges because they never intended to hurt anybody.

"Where's the intent?" said Kooiman's attorney, Karen Constantine. "I have seen none. I have heard none."

Lawyers are scum. Maybe we should toss bricks at them, after all there won't be any intent to harm....

6 posted on 03/11/2003 12:46:07 PM PST by Kozak
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Sounds like attempted murder to me...

"Hold muh beer 'n watch this!" PING....

If you want on or off this list, please let me know!

7 posted on 03/11/2003 12:47:20 PM PST by mhking (Stay on target....stay on target...)
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Take 'em out back and shoot 'em.
8 posted on 03/11/2003 12:48:20 PM PST by Wolfie
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Defense attorneys argued the teens shouldn't be tried on the charges because they never intended to hurt anybody.

Defense attorneys will say anything. Any damn fool could have told Swick that dropping bricks on cars is dangerous.

"We were raising mischief, I guess," said suspect Jack "Aaron" Swick, 16, of Alto,...

Raising what?! Tell that to the victim who lost an eye and is facing a lot more facial reconstruction. Swick is an idiot, how can he have looked at his victim afterwards and not seen the results of his "little mischief"?

Kooiman and Swick ran back to the truck, Koops said. They later went four-wheeling, some went shopping for shoes and watched movies later that night, according to testimony. They also returned to the scene, but were turned away by police blockades. "We wanted to see how big the accident was," Swick said.

Good grief. Swick did that and then went out for a good time. If Swick had shown any remorse, it would have been better. He doesn't seem to learned anything.

9 posted on 03/11/2003 12:49:45 PM PST by xJones
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Defense attorneys argued the teens shouldn't be tried on the charges because they never intended to hurt anybody. "Where's the intent?" said Kooiman's attorney, Karen Constantine. "I have seen none. I have heard none."

Deadly force is that force which, when applied to a human being, can be reasonably expected to cause death or serious bodily injury.

If you don't intend to hurt anyone, don't employ deadly force against them.

10 posted on 03/11/2003 12:51:17 PM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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I'm sure 8 long weeks of boot camp would be a good 'prank'.
12 posted on 03/11/2003 12:53:16 PM PST by hippy hate me
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I agree they didn't mean to, no charges are necessary. Just give the husband or boyfriend 10 minutes alone with each of their sorry carcasses and if he isn't man enough to do it, I would gladly come up there & let loose a $hitload of hurt on these hoodlum kids. As a matter of fact I would gladly kick the $hit out of this attorney as well. Kids or young adults need to face the same music as the rest of us, they definately deserve an @ss kicking as well as jail time.
14 posted on 03/11/2003 12:54:17 PM PST by HELLRAISER II
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"We were raising mischief, I guess,"

"Mischief" seems like an awfully big word for such stupid kids.

15 posted on 03/11/2003 12:54:29 PM PST by Lil'freeper
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Yeah, this is all over the news around here. I saw these kids on the local news last night.......they said they were BORED.

I promply went off on the television almost to the point where my wife had to restrain me.

Throw the book at them, and their ridiculous lawyer.

16 posted on 03/11/2003 12:54:35 PM PST by GoredInMich
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"They had no money. There was nothing else to do," Koops said. "It was a terrible reason, but they were bored."

If they had no money, how were they able to go to the movies afterward?

19 posted on 03/11/2003 12:57:38 PM PST by saminfl
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"Where's the intent?" said Kooiman's attorney, Karen Constantine. "I have seen none. I have heard none."
 
Why, what a brilliant, well reasoned defense counselor!  I'm sure that your line of reasoning will garner bushels of support with the jury, just as it has here on FreeRepublic.
You wouldn't want to go down the "These kids made a horrible mistake, accept full responsibility for it, extend their most sincere and deepest regrets to the victim and her family and throw themselves on the mercy of the court" road.  Nope, not when there's a perfectly good jury waiting to be turned from horrified into rabidly irate.
 
At least you've laid the ground work for a re-trial based on your aggressively gross incompetence. 

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

20 posted on 03/11/2003 12:59:49 PM PST by End Times Sentinel
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As punishment, these people need to be hung by their toes, under the overpass, so that they can understand the fear and pain that they have commented against innocent people.
21 posted on 03/11/2003 1:01:52 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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Here's a similar incident from the past, recounted in a Newsmax column entitled White House Lawyer Fudges Clinton Civil Rights Record: Cheryl Mills' Moving Moment Based on Myth by Carl Limbacher:

Ms. Mills might also care to bone up on the story of Billy Ray Washington, another African-American, who was literally framed on a homicide rap to cover-up malfeasance by Bill Clinton's mother.

As documented in The New Republic (Aug. 3, 1992), Washington's brush with Clinton style "civil rights" was harrowing. One day in 1983, Washington found himself the subject of racist taunts by a carload of white teens. He responded with a rock, which struck 17 year old Susie Deer in the face. But Deer's injuries were not serious and the hospital recommended only some minor plastic surgery.

Then why did Susie Deer end up dead? Nurse-anesthetist Virginia Dwire (later Kelly, Clinton's mother) had apparently botched the procedure on Deer.

A subsequent hospital investigation revealed that Dwire often indulged herself during her work by reading the racing form and filing her nails. After Susie Deer's death, Dwire's job was on the line.

Dwire was saved when Little Rock's Clinton-friendly medical examiner Dr. Fahmy Malak ruled Susie Deer's death a homicide. Investigators learned that Dwire had discussed the case with her son and that Malak had been made aware of the Clinton connection in Deer's death. Rather than implicate the governor's mother, Billy Ray Washington was charged with criminally negligent homicide and sent to jail for six months.

-PJ
26 posted on 03/11/2003 1:30:42 PM PST by Political Junkie Too
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This happened in our area a few years ago. A couple of dirtbags dropped a cinderblock off a bridge as a prank and it fell on a car being driven by a soldier from Fort Drum, killing her.
28 posted on 03/11/2003 1:35:47 PM PST by jalisco555
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John Koops, 19, a cousin of Swick and a friend of Kooiman, said the evening started out innocently as Kooiman and Swick worked on a truck. Later, they gathered at Koop's house, where a fourth teen, Glenn Gould, 19, loaded software onto a computer.

Anybody else feel that it inappropriate to charachterize 19 year-olds as "teens?" Interestingly, the third accomplice was also 19. The 16 year-old dropped the brick.

1) Any chance somebody else dropped the brick & they put Swick up to it know that he was the only minor?

31 posted on 03/11/2003 2:02:56 PM PST by WaveThatFlag
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Bridge

Swick

Kooiman

Link

33 posted on 03/11/2003 2:15:31 PM PST by moyden
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