That statement is both carelessly worded and false. Which organizations did the polls? When were the polls conducted? Did they target RV's,LV's, Americans over 18...? Since polls (plural) was used, I'll be waiting right here for you to come back with the answers to my questions for at least two independent polls, along with the polling results themselves and links to the original sources. Once answer the questions and provide the data, we can continue the discussion.
Good luck.
Yeah, I trust polls conducted by a French owned company of REGISTERED VOTERS who are not likely to vote and lean Demonrat by default. Bush's approval rating under a Fox poll was around 60%.
2. Do you really think when the bombs start dropping Iraqis are going to be in the streets celebrating? HARDLY! They are going to be in their bomb shelters praying to Allah that a bomb doesn't drop on them making them become one of the thousands upon thousands of collateral damage that will occur once the war starts.
They should be in the bomb shelters protecting themselves. Our bombs, while generally accurate, might have problems with their GPS positioning because that nice guy of a leader Saddam Hussein has bought GPS jammers from North Korea, putting his own citizens at risk. Bombs do also go astray from time to time. Rest assured, one the smoke clears and American GIs are in control of their towns, there will be dancing in the streets.
3. Saddam doesn't like Bin Laden and Bin Laden doesn't like Saddam. That is obvious to ANYONE who pays attention to the news. Why would Saddam assist someone who ultimately wants to see Saddam toppled. If you know anything about anything you know that Saddam is all about saving himself and his regime. Saddam giving Bin Laden support would not be consistent with that.
You must not be paying too much attention to the news. A lot of Al Queda operatives had forged Iraqi passports. There is evidence of meetings between at least one 9-11 hijacker and Iraqi officials. There was evidence of the Iraqi government and Al-Queda meeting in Jordan. The link is there, you just choose to ignore it. Iraq has helped to finance Al-Queda's operations.
4. The women of Afghanistan still wear burqas. Religious law is still being enforced to some degree. The Bush administration neglected to include aid to Afghanistan in his budget. Afghanistan still doesn't have the most stable or functioning government. My father always told me to do one thing at a time and do it well and then move on to the next. It is a shame George W. didn't learn that from his dad.
At least women in Afghanistan can go to school. I believe that they are not required to wear burquas in all situations. There are even women in the government itself. Best of luck with that happening under the old regime. You can't fix a country that has had decades of civil wars overnight. I am sure the aid package to Afghanistan has been or will be appropriated.
Your dad told you to do one thing at a time, huh? How would your dad suggested we handled WWII then? Just fight the Germans and ignore the Japanese and the Italians? My dad taught me the importance of knowing past history so that it doesn't repeat itself -- to allievate threats before they can act upon us. We are more than adequately equipped to handle Iraq and the Al-Queda fight at the same time.
How pithy you are to start with an insult and quotes so audible I'm tempted to paint a little picture of you making the "air quotes" while you wrote your "post".
Obviously she didn't really know what was going on if she didn't even know who Al Sharpton was.
If you're going to argue current events, you should probably know about them, wouldn't you say? Hmmmmmm? ;-)
Maybe you should try arguing with a real liberal sometime and not some straw-woman and then see how you fare. *rolls eyes*
Thank you for the image! We sure couldn't tell you were sarcastic yet. Nawwww. We thought you were selling cookies!
Let's talk about some of your errors in your argument...
Nah. Let's talk about the ones in YOURS.
1. In the latest polls most people said they would vote for a Democrat rather than George Bush in the next election.
What poll are you citing? Where is it? Where's the link? We like to post links here at FR, you may have noticed that. Kinda easy. I'll show you how to do the HTML if you don't know how -- although JimRob has updated the site so even an idiot can use it now (which unfortunately lets more of them get in *cough*).
Even if you produce that poll, I'll lay money on the table that the question is loaded. And what WAS the wording of the question? Do you remember that? You're awful short on facts already.
2. Do you really think when the bombs start dropping Iraqis are going to be in the streets celebrating?
Not unless they're very stupid, no, but there may be herds of reporters all over the place...
HARDLY! They are going to be in their bomb shelters praying to Allah that a bomb doesn't drop on them making them
Okay, I'm still with you...
become one of the thousands upon thousands of collateral damage that will occur once the war starts.
Oh, right, I *think* this might be where we differ. Thousands upon thousands of lives? Give me the stats for the Gulf War. Give me the stats for Afghanistan. We are inevitably going to war, and you WANT to assume the worst? You must dislike the Iraqi people to want them to die like that...I'm certain our military is more cautious than you are about such things. Or, at least, I think they probably are. Maybe you're smarter than ALL of them and you really can predict the future -- including exact casualty lists. In which case, could you privately mail me the lottery numbers for tomorrow?
3. Saddam doesn't like Bin Laden and Bin Laden doesn't like Saddam. That is obvious to ANYONE who pays attention to the news.
I watch the news all the time, unless I've been hallucinating and my TV is stuck on the Animal Channel or something...and it's not at all obvious to me. What's obvious is that Saddam wants to delay. A nice way to delay is to play down his al-Qaeda links -- but, you know, that's just what I think, what do I know, I'm just someone who pays attention to the news.
Why would Saddam assist someone who ultimately wants to see Saddam toppled.
Hmm. Wait. You have evidence that al-Qaeda is planning to topple Saddam? GREAT! We don't have to send ANY American troops in! Sweet!
Oh, and by the way, where are your sources again? Oh, those pesky sources.
If you know anything about anything
...you wouldn't write a post like this...
you know that Saddam is all about saving himself and his regime.
Wow. You come up with that all by yourself? You, my friend, are SMOOTH! Although, ya know, Saddam's also about grabbing more power so his regime can eventually dominate the Middle East, and then...the world, he hopes, in his wet dreams.
Saddam giving Bin Laden support would not be consistent with that.
Well, wait, let me just try to use my pea-brain here, since I'm up against a "real liberal". Bin Laden's #1 enemy is the United States, #2 is Israel (I hope you don't dispute that -- you can mess with the order if you want, doesn't affect my argument). As we speak, Saddam is being threatened by 300,000 precisely-trained, honed, American and Brit homegrown badasses with enough heavy weaponry to make the general vicinity look like the surface of the sun on a hot day. Have you ever heard "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"? Why did WSC grudgingly take Joe Stalin's support? He needed it. Saddam needs whatever he can get right now. If anything, he'd be MORE likely to turn to fringe terrorist groups at the moment, since he's boxed in like...a man surrounded by 300,000 US and UK homegrown badasses. EVEN if we are to believe that Bin Laden is interested in "toppling" Hussein. Which you didn't produce a source for. Even if you fail to produce the source, though, I can still argue that point easily, although let's see if you can dig up that pesky source FOIST, mmkay, "real liberal"?
4. The women of Afghanistan still wear burqas.
Yes, by choice. It's engrained. I have an Indian friend who doesn't eat meat -- not because he's Hindhu (he's an atheist), not because he's a vegetarian (he's eaten meat and likes it), but just because it's force of habit -- it's the way he was brought up. If you lived in a country ruled by a dictator where you had, say, been forced to wear tan pants and tan pants only for 30 years, and suddenly liberators came, disarmed the dictator, and told you you were now free to walk around with no pants on at all, because that was their custom, would you be likely to be running around in your tight-whiteys everywhere?
Religious law is still being enforced to some degree.
Where? Show me.
The Bush administration neglected to include aid to Afghanistan in his budget.
Uhm, if you'd like to place a bet on whether or not aid will be sent to Afghanistan by Bush, now's the time! :-)
Afghanistan still doesn't have the most stable or functioning government.
Afghanistan -- yeah, it's doing awfully. I mean, after decades of civil war, Soviet incursion, starvation, repression, war, war, war, more war...and finally liberation...they haven't gotten it *all* together under a year and half or so. What a complete failure, really. I just can't fathom a place that can't get its government together...ah wait...I live in America...we elected Bill Clinton twice, I *do* know what its like to live under a non-stable, dysfunctional government! Ah!
I feel your pain, oh, I r'ally do. :-(
My father always told me to do one thing at a time and do it well and then move on to the next.
Well, then, thank God your father was never elected to public office, because "anyone who knows anything" knows that in public office you are constantly dealing with 8 gazillion issues at once. I just wish your father had given you the "Sh*t/Shinola" lesson, or maybe the one about telling that orifice on your behind from a hole in the wall.
Plus, I bet MY dad can beat up YOUR dad!
It is a shame George W. didn't learn that from his dad.
Well, I think what he learned from pop was: P***ying out doesn't pay, if anything.
And it's a shame Bush I didn't finish this 12 years ago...because he wanted to do one thing at a time...step by step...through the United Nations.
You are a new, amazing, mutant breed of idiot. I don't know whether to laugh at you or...man, salute you for being SO dumb.