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Stardumb: Whoopie Goldberg
The Weekly Standard ^ | 3/13/2003 | David Skinner

Posted on 03/14/2003 2:37:44 AM PST by NYS_Eric

Stardumb: Whoopie Goldberg
The center square of comedy doesn't like it when people make jokes about lefty entertainers--it's unconstitutional. Also, a Coldplay update and Chrissy Hynde's literal anti-Americanism.
by David Skinner
03/13/2003 12:00:00 AM



BLACKLIST. Censorship. The Constitution. Free Speech. This is what the Stardumb phenomenon is all about: The guaranteed right of every entertainer to make an ass of himself as he rushes to the public square with his fresh-from-the-mouth-of-Bill-Maher pronouncements on the issue of war.

And, thus, by ridiculing such statements, the American people are attempting to subvert the Constitution and take us all back to some dark, repressive era in the nation's mythically terrible past. Thus sayeth many, most prominently the Screen Actors Guild in an official statement last week.

Stardumb Hypothesis Number 5: Having made an idiot of himself, the Stardumb celebrity proceeds to defend his right to do so. This right, however, remains completely unchallenged: It's as safe and well-preserved as a worthless trinket locked in kryptonite, guarded by adrenaline-drunk Marines, 200 feet under the sea floor, at an undisclosed location somewhere in the Pacific Ocean.

For example, no one is messing with Martin Sheen's right to be Martin Sheen (who some say is the reason for the SAG statement). Whether NBC executives have reason to be worried about his astonishingly dumb pronouncements (exceptional even by Hollywood standards) is another matter. Clearly the only one endangering Martin Sheen's "right to work," as the SAG statement puts it, is Martin Sheen. Furthermore, the plunging audience numbers for the once-heralded "West Wing" have nothing to do with Sheen's "I play a president on TV" antiwar spiel.

Stardumb Hypothesis Number 6: While he is busy defending his right to make an ass of himself, the stardummy's asinine activity has been brought into full public view for the pleasant diversion of all. How does it happen? His vanity, having long ago won a final victory over his self-reproach, keeps the stardummy from recognizing his own foolishness.

Hosting the David Letterman show the other night (Letterman was out sick), Whoopi Goldberg interviewed Jessica Lange. The discussion was moving along nicely, uninterrupted by applause, when the question arose of why stardummies like Goldberg and Lange are treated so harshly. Because people only know her as an actress, explained the beautiful Lange, they can't imagine her as a political being. She called the negative response an attempt to deny this part of her self and blamed it on a failure of the public's imagination.

Whoopi's take was that people had misread the Constitution, making her today's featured Stardummy.

A few lessons emerge. For starters, Whoopi Goldberg wouldn't recognize the Constitution--or, more to her point, the Bill of Rights--if her house were wallpapered with it. Second (and this is so obvious I hesitate to mention it), entertainers are more entertaining when not discussing politics. The next guest after Lange was the hilarious comedian Dave Chapelle, who has his own show on Comedy Central. You have a lot of opinions, Whoopi said, what's your take on this? Sure he had a lot of opinions, but the first one he offered was that Jessica Lange looked HOT! Then he called the 53-year-old actress "the white Tina Turner." The studio audience roared. As it did when Lange herself made a sly joke about how cold it was in the Ed Sullivan theater (the temperature is kept low to keep the place from boiling over with body heat). Hardly the stuff of an HBO comedy special, but the audience lapped it up.

A major failing of Whoopi and other entertainers is they don't recognize that turnabout is fair play. In her opening monologue, Goldberg joked that the world was much safer when the president was getting laid--meaning when Clinton was in the Oval Office. (Now, this was clearly beyond the pale of acceptable taste. And is this the Clinton legacy, by the way, making it "okay" to publicly insult the marriages of other presidents?) Goldberg also joked that Condoleezza Rice sounded like the name of a disease. A childish line, of course, but it would be held against Rice, a public figure, were she to cry about it. Yet, there goes Whoopi, also a public figure, rubbing wounds with actress Jessica Lange about how unfair it is that people make fun of them.

But it's not only entertainers who seem confused about the basic rules of praise and ridicule as they operate in the public square. When the subject of celebrity activists and possible boycotts was broached on "Fox News Watch" over the weekend, columnist Cal Thomas was quick to say he opposed censorship as a response to celebrity big-mouthery. The Screen Actors Guild also needs enlightenment here. Censorship is not the same as boycotting, which is not the same as simply losing one's taste for a specific entertainer after being exposed to his obnoxious views.

Anyway, what is so offensive about a boycott like the one recommended by March on Hollywood, which encourages consumers to skip the next Matt Damon film and write letters to Martin Sheen's talent agent? Audiences, having reserved space in the American personae for a debonair performer, are rightly annoyed when they see the role occupied by a third-rate political activist, who, if he were really punching his weight, would be back at the antiwar office licking envelopes.

Barbrometer: Three and a half Barbra Streisand heads

Grader's Comment: Whoopi can hardly be excused on the grounds that she's new to the commentary game. As to the substance of her punditry, she couldn't pass a sixth-grade social studies test on what the Constitution says. But it's her mentality that really puts her in the center square of today's Stardumb board: That combination of woe-is-me whining and truly vicious, anything-goes bile when it comes to the Bush administration . . . it's so Hollywood.


RADICAL BLEAK: Chris Martin of Coldplay skated through the last Barbrometer reading with only two Streisand heads. The grader has since been persuaded the Coldplay frontman should have rated at least three Babs. For one, as Michael Moynihan of thepolitburo.com has reported, Martin wore a hammer-and-sickle pin to the British music awards. And as a couple of other correspondents mention, Martin has been known to announce on stage, apropos of the song "Everything's Not Lost," that everything would indeed be lost if Bush and Cheney were reelected.

Lastly, Pretender Chrissy Hynde snuck into the annals of Stardumb recently when she told a San Francisco audience that the United States deserves to lose the upcoming war with Saddam. "Bring it on! Give us what we deserve!" No word yet on what Hynde thinks the people of Iraq deserve.

David Skinner is an assistant managing editor at The Weekly Standard.



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1 posted on 03/14/2003 2:37:44 AM PST by NYS_Eric
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To: NYS_Eric
Goldberg also joked that Condoleezza Rice sounded like the name of a disease. A childish line, of course...

GUHHH! Whoopi Goldberg can't approach within 10 feet of a mirror for fear it would explode from the overload of "Ugly".

Meanwhile Condoleeza Rice has the air, intellect and integrity of a woman you would want to spend several lifetimes with.

I can't even watch Whoopi on TV without flipping the channel in a few seconds. Just enough time for the synapse to fire and the "alert" message to return to the finger.

2 posted on 03/14/2003 2:49:34 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: NYS_Eric; mhking
Goldberg also joked that Condoleezza Rice sounded like the name of a disease.

Ah, yes. Whoopi and Lange are the experts, and they know more about world affairs than Condi. Well, listen up, Whoopi: Condi has more class and intelligence in her little finger than you have in your whole body. Condi got to where she is on the basis of her intelligence, and, unlike you, she actually gets paid for her analysis regarding political affairs, and trust me there's a reason for that. BY THE WAY: ANYONE WITH THE NAME "WHOOPI" HAS NO RIGHT TO BE MAKING FUN OF OTHER PEOPLE'S NAMES!

3 posted on 03/14/2003 2:59:54 AM PST by Fraulein
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To: Caipirabob
That old homeless drug addicted street whore talking about my president.

It's almost time to roundup these seditious celebrities and put them in jail.

4 posted on 03/14/2003 3:09:36 AM PST by battlegearboat
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To: Caipirabob
My late father said that he wanted to place Whoopi out in is corn field. I ask why....and the reply... "Son, she would have crows bringing back corn, they stole three years ago." Needless to say, I was on the floor crying from laughter.
5 posted on 03/14/2003 3:26:51 AM PST by Capt_Hank
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To: NYS_Eric
Naturally people like Hynde who wish we lose a war are not un-American. Oh, of course not (ha,ha). And then they wonder why they're called anti-American.
6 posted on 03/14/2003 3:33:49 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.have)
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To: Caipirabob
I have always thought that Whoopi Goldberg's stage name smacked of the psychopathology of anti-Semiticism as developed by Sartre--a kind of self-hate thing.
7 posted on 03/14/2003 3:38:05 AM PST by ingeborg
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Whoopi Goldberg (the former Karyn Johnson) needs to check her glass house prior to stone tossing....

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8 posted on 03/14/2003 3:49:15 AM PST by mhking (Fasten your seatbelts....We're goin' in!)
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To: Capt_Hank
My late father said that he wanted to place Whoopi out in is corn field. I ask why....and the reply... "Son, she would have crows bringing back corn, they stole three years ago." Needless to say, I was on the floor crying from laughter.

What is it about the "Greatest Generation," and their ability to cut through the B.S. with a homespun yarn? My late Granddad, who also had a habit of cracking me up, left me with one I will never forget. When AlGore lost in 2000, my Grandma (his wife and an FDR Democrat) lamented that Gore "just didn't sell himself very well." My Granddad replied "Al Gore couldn't sell a wild hair to an a$$hole."

9 posted on 03/14/2003 3:50:50 AM PST by bullseye1911 (Conservatism- more filling, tastes great!)
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To: NYS_Eric
A big stardump on all stardumbs.
10 posted on 03/14/2003 3:58:39 AM PST by ricpic
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To: NYS_Eric
The only comment Lange is worth: I wonder if her "thermometers" popped up because the studio was sooo cold?
11 posted on 03/14/2003 4:00:20 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Fraulein
Goldberg also joked that Condoleezza Rice sounded like the name of a disease.

Ah, yes. Whoopi and Lange are the experts, and they know more about world affairs than Condi.

Goldberg and Lange are only experts on diseases - social diseases lke themselves and most of their colleagues!

12 posted on 03/14/2003 4:00:46 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: bullseye1911
ROTFLMAO.... and trying to clean coffee from the keyboard. Many years ago, friends told me to write down all of my father's sayings. I have many stored in ROM, but I kick myself in the A$$ for not writing all of them down. But the younger generation wouldn't understand the meaning of most of them. The old man was 90 when he passed in 94. We would talk politics.... his favorite saying.... "This world isn't fit to live in, but there is no place else to go." I often wonder what he would say now?

Okay, back to cleaning the keyboard and desk.
13 posted on 03/14/2003 4:02:32 AM PST by Capt_Hank
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To: Capt_Hank
My late father said that he wanted to place Whoopi out in is corn field. I ask why....and the reply... "Son, she would have crows bringing back corn, they stole three years ago."

ROTFL!!!

14 posted on 03/14/2003 4:08:25 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: bullseye1911
By the way.... how many grains of W231 do you use? I load 5.0 gr.
15 posted on 03/14/2003 4:09:42 AM PST by Capt_Hank
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To: bullseye1911
Your Grandad's remark has left me in stiches! Lots of laughs.
16 posted on 03/14/2003 4:16:05 AM PST by albee
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To: ricpic
I don't know who this Chrissy person is - but she deserves to live in Iraq for awhile..... you know, the place where she WOULDN'T be free to run her mouth like an idiot........
17 posted on 03/14/2003 4:30:45 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Put a sock in it, Chryssy Hind(parts)!

OK, it's not brilliant. Still working on the first cup a' joe.
18 posted on 03/14/2003 4:39:06 AM PST by ricpic
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To: Capt_Hank
I use 700x. I'd have to look at the cookbook, but I think about 5.2grs. I know it's dirty, but it's cheap and I can load .45, 9mm, and 12 ga. for trap loads...Regards.
19 posted on 03/14/2003 5:32:23 AM PST by bullseye1911 (Conservatism- more filling, tastes great!)
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To: albee
Yes, he left me the same way most of the time! Regards.
20 posted on 03/14/2003 5:34:15 AM PST by bullseye1911 (Conservatism- more filling, tastes great!)
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