[kesg]

They all suck and can't keep anyone safe, get that though your head. They're having a blast incrementally ruining a free coutry.

Okay, I'll bite on this one, too. What specific freedoms do you think you have lost in your personal life since enactment of the first Patroit Act, and in what specific respects are you less safe today then you were on, say, September 10, 2001 as a result of the passage of that Act?

[sinkspur]

What specific freedoms do you think you have lost in your personal life since enactment of the first Patroit Act, and in what specific respects are you less safe today then you were on, say, September 10, 2001 as a result of the passage of that Act?

I'll be anxious to read any responses you get to this excellent question.

I've asked it at least 50 times in the last 15 months, and never get an answer.

[GhostofWCooper]

Privacy issues aside, how about the freedom from illegal search and siezure? They can break into your house and take things without informing you they were even there.

During the sniper hunt, they were hassling legal rifle owners, and doing ballistic checks on their their rifles without any probable cause.

People are being interrogated in airports for getting mouthy with security there. Being POed doesn't make you a terrorist, so what's up with that?

I think the war footing is dangerous for Liberty.

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

Did the passage of this act get all of these enemies out? Did it enable the monitoring of them to catch them, or just watch them, because it is too inpolitically incorrect to go arrest and deport? I say kick em all the hell out.

We don't logically need this act to fight terrorisim, and will it be abolished when the above map is cleaned up? Probably not. Secure all of our borders and make the fat cat agencies we have now- DO THEIR JOBS!