bill clinton's POLICY: MAKE CERTAIN America was not "the biggest power on the block."

New York Daily News | 3.15.03 | Mia T

[Mia T]

"We need to be creating a world that we would like to live in when we're not the biggest power on the block."--bill clinton

Bill blasts 'political mess' by W
New York Daily News | March 14, 2003 | JOEL SIEGEL

 

 

 

NOTE:
It was, in fact, bill clinton's POLICY to MAKE CERTAIN that America was not "the biggest power on the block."

 

 

North Korea doesn't stop doing anything. Then comes 1993. Abruptly, with inspectors hot on their trail, the Kims pull out of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. The reactor at Yongbyon is up and running. The Clinton administration swings into action. By the end of 1994, the Clintonites announce with great fanfare a deal called "the Agreed Framework."

The "Agreed Framework" looks suspiciously like the 1985 deal with the Soviets. The U.S. agreed to build two reactors in North Korea. But wait, there was so much more. We also agreed to supply Dear Leader (by this time, Great Leader had died) with fuel oil and food aid. This bribe was, as they used to say on game shows, a package worth something like $4 billion.

Bill Clinton celebrated. "North Korea will freeze and then dismantle its nuclear program," he announced in one of the innumerable statements for which history will deride him.

Then, in 1998, North Korea got scary all over again by launching an intercontinental missile directly over Japan. The United States demanded that the North Koreans allow international inspectors into the country to determine the extent of its nuclear program.

The North Koreans said: Fine; pay us $300 million and we'll let the inspectors in. The United States went one better. It didn't hand over the cash. Instead, it sent food aid in a package worth far more than $300 million.

Even after this debacle, the Clintonites kept on acting as if their 1994 deal was a good one. "We made a lot of progress with them," the president said on Dec. 28, 2000. "I think it will make the world a much safer place. I feel very good about what we've done."

Now here we are. We know North Korea has at least one nuclear weapon - and that, unchecked, it will be able to make 50 nuclear bombs a year by 2009. Yet influential voices continue to insist that all we need to do is continue to give Dear Leader money - the very money he uses to subsidize his nation's efforts to become a major nuclear power.

Hence, Tom Friedman in the New York Times: "When dealing with a heavily armed crazy state like North Korea. . . . All you can do is is shrink its nuclear programs in exchange for food, and expand trade and investment to alleviate some of its abject poverty - so when it does collapse, it does the least damage possible."

North Korea is the perfect object lesson in the failure of appeasement: Without appeasement, it would not be a nuclear power today. And yet the Friedmans of the world keep insisting that appeasement is the only workable strategy.

So who's really crazy here? Dear Leader - or the appeasers?

CRAZY KOREA 'CURES'

New York Post | 12/27/02 | JOHN PODHORETZ

Rumor has it William Jefferson Clinton himself is to recite Honest Abe's lines in this New Year's Eve pageant. Whoever writes these scripts has a natural talent for irony. For some irrepressible reason, one cannot help but think of that costume party in "The Manchurian Candidate,'' complete with Red Queen and Abe Lincoln in stovepipe hat and fake beard.

 

Hey, what a party! New Year's at the White House

 

 

 

by Mia T

 

The Republicans' latest talking point is that the breach of national security enabled by clinton must be simple incompetence, that the concept that anyone in government would commit treason is too outrageous even to contemplate.

If the Republicans believe what they are saying, then they are morons.

If they don't believe what they are saying, then they, too, are traitors.

Outrageousness is an essential element of clinton corruption. The clinton crimes -- rape, murder -- and now treason -- are so outrageous that they allow clinton hacks to reasonably brand all clinton accusers clinton-hating neo-Nazi crazies (notwithstanding the plain fact that some of us are Northeast Jews of leftist origin)..

Yet privately few clintonites would deny that Bill Clinton facilitated China espionage. Their only question: "Why?"

Some call clinton a quisling, a Manchurian Candidate, bought off in Little Rock by Riady and company decades ago (and much too cheaply, according to his Chinese benefactors), trading our national security for his political power. This argument is persuasive but incomplete; clinton, a certifiable megalomaniac, is driven ultimately by his solipsistic, messianic world view and by that which ultimately quashes all else -- his toxic legacy.

William J. Broad suggests (Spying Isn't the Only Way to Learn About Nukes, The New York Times, May 30, 1999) that clinton had another reason to empower China and disembowel America. Broad argues that clinton sought to disseminate our atomic secrets proactively in order to implement his postmodern, quite inane epistemological theory, namely, that, contrary to currently held dogma, knowledge is not power after all -- that, indeed, quite the contrary is the case.

Broad writes in part:

Since 1993, officials say, the Energy Department's "openness initiative" has released at least 178 categories of atom secrets. By contrast, the 1980s saw two such actions...

Its overview of the disclosures, "Restricted Data Declassification Decisions," dated January 1999 and more than 140 pages long, lists such things as how atom bombs can be boosted in power, key steps in making hydrogen bombs, the minimum amount (8.8 pounds) of plutonium or uranium fuel needed for an atom bomb and the maximum time it takes an exploding atomic bomb to ignite an H-bomb's hydrogen fuel (100 millionths of a second).

No grade-B physicist from any university could figure this stuff. It took decades of experience gained at a cost of more than $400 billion.

The release of the secrets started as a high-stakes bet that openness would lessen, not increase, the world's vulnerability to nuclear arms and war. John Holum, who heads arms control at the State Department, told Congress last year that the test ban "essentially eliminates" the possibility of a renewed international race to develop new kinds of nuclear arms...

"The United States must stand as leader," O'Leary told a packed news conference in December 1993 upon starting the process. "We are declassifying the largest amount of information in the history of the department."

Critics, however, say the former secrets are extremely valuable to foreign powers intent on making nuclear headway. Gaffney, the former Reagan official, disparaged the giveaway as "dangling goodies in front of people to get them to sign up into our arms-control agenda."

Thomas B. Cochran,:..."In terms of the phenomenology of nuclear weapons...the cat is out of the bag."

...[F]ormer Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said the "extensive declassification" of secrets had inadvertently aided the global spread of deadly weapons. ["inadvertently" ???!!!!]

Broad would have us believe we are watching "Being There" and not "The Manchurian Candidate." His argument is superficially appealing as most reasonable people would conclude that it requires the simplemindedness of a Chauncy Gardener (in "Being There") to reason that instructing China and a motley assortment of terrorist nations on how to beef up their atom bombs and how not to omit the "key steps" when building hydrogen bombs would somehow blunt and not stimulate their appetites for bigger and better bombs and a higher position in the power food chain.

But it is Broad's failure to fully connect the dots -- clinton's wholesale release of atomic secrets, decades of Chinese money sluicing into clinton's campaigns, clinton pushing the test ban treaty, clinton's concomitant sale of supercomputers, and clinton's noxious legacy -- that blows his argument to smithereens and reduces his piece to just another clinton apologia by The New York Times.

But even a Times apologia cannot save clinton from the gallows. Clinton can be both an absolute (albeit postmodern) moron and a traitor. The strict liability Gump-ism, "Treason is as treason does" applies.

The idea that an individual can be convicted of the crime of treason only if there is treasonous intent or *mens rea* runs contrary to the concept of strict liability crimes. That doctrine (Park v United States, (1974) 421 US 658,668) established the principle of 'strict liability' or 'liability without fault' in certain criminal cases, usually involving crimes which endanger the public welfare.

Calling his position on the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty "an historic milestone," (if he must say so himself) clinton believed that if he could get China to sign it, he would go down in history as the savior of mankind. This was 11 August 1995.

According to James Risen and Jeff Gerth of The New York Times, "the legacy codes and the warhead data that goes with them" -- apparently stolen from the Los Alamos weapons lab by scientist, Wen Ho Lee aided and abetted by bill clinton, hillary clinton, the late Ron Brown, Sandy Berger, Hazel O'Leary, Janet Reno, Eric Holder and others in the clinton administration [not to mention congressional clinton accomplices Glenn, Daschle, Bumpers, Harkin, Boxer, Feinstein, Lantos, Levin. Lautenberg, Torricelli et al.] -- "could [especially when combined with the supercomputers that clinton sold to China to help them finish the job] be particularly valuable for a country, like China, that has signed onto the nuclear test ban treaty and relies solely on computer simulations to upgrade and maintain its nuclear arsenal. The legacy codes are now used to maintain the American nuclear arsenal through computer simulation.

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Most of Lee's transfers occurred in 1994 and 1995, just before China signed the test ban treaty in 1996, according to American officials."

Few who have observed clinton would argue against the proposition that this legacy-obsessed megalomaniac would trade our legacy codes for his rehabilitated legacy in a Monica minute and to hell with "the children."

 

   

 

 

 

[The Wizard]

America's policy make sure billy boy is ignored unti the Arlingotn ceremony

[Mudboy Slim]

"...permanently tainting the "legacy..."

While I agree that DE-LEGITIMIZING the EX-Traitor-in-Chief is always a positive thing, it ain't enuff...he must be DESTROYED!! We can NEVER FORGET that Bill Clinton is a Megalomaniacal Sociopath who CRAVES POWER and ain't afraid to break laws and kill innocents to git and retain said Power!! This whole thing with him and Chirac and Hussein is yet more proof that Clinton LOATHES America!!

All Americans must learn to LOATHE the KorruptKlintonKlan in return...MUD

BTW...we're gittin' there!!

[Mudboy Slim]

IMHO, my FRiend, we cannot afford to IGNORE our enemies, and William Jefferson Blythe Clinton is THE ENEMY of the American People!! He is presently conspiring with Soddom'sInsane and JackLaPunk to undermine American Security, and he's been even more devious in transferring NUKES to the Chi-Coms and NorthKoreans!! That's bald-faced TREASON and Clinton Shall Be Brought to JUSTICE fer his Crimes!!

FReegards...MUD

[backhoe]

Hello, Slim... well, my "meatworld interface" ( Entropy Squared- the rush to chaos!'s colorfull term for reality- has been giving me problems.

Last week the wife's car needed a new radiator- a nuisance, since it blew 25 miles away- but this week I had to move my Mom from assisted living to a nursing home, and she's not a happy camper.

Just sitting here trying to figure out what to do next after delivering my wife to work.
( she still can't drive the 25 miles to her job- aftereffects of the plate put in her neck )

Basically, I have to get more of Mom's personal stuff- like clothes, toiletries, and her walker- to her, and work out what to do with her furniture at the assisted living place because "we charge you until you clear out her room"- over a $100 a day, and she's been gone from there since Wenesday.

[Mudboy Slim]

Well, my FRiend, find some time fer yerself in that busy day of yers...it's gonna be a beautiful day just perfect fer enjoyin'...MUD

[backhoe]

Appreciate the encouraging words- any day you can stand up, walk, and talk, you are one jump ahead of the game...

[Mudboy Slim]

"stand up, walk, and talk"

Heck, I feel so good this morning--preJava, even--that I might just do some squawkin' and some gawkin' ta boot...LOL!!

FReegards...MUD

[backhoe]

I might just do some squawkin' and some gawkin' ta boot...

Put in a few for me, neighbor!

[ricpic]

Wilhelm: You da man!

Bill "Energizer Bunny" Clinton. His "legacy" just keeps going and going and going and.......

[Mudboy Slim]

"The Lowdown on the Showdown!!"

"While most are aware by now that President Bush, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar will confer Sunday in the Azores, it seems just as many do not realize the weight of this meeting. This truly is a “war council”. A “little birdy” informed me days ago of this gathering, long before it was mentioned publicly. I was told that there would be a summit of the “Big 3” at a “neutral site”, meaning not in the US, GB, or Spain, but likely on an island in the Atlantic belonging to a friendly ally. While this meeting is described as being “hastily arranged”, it has actually been in the planning for some time. Once it became clear that the US and the “willing coalition” would be the liberating force it was decided that the “Big 3” should meet in person for several reasons.

While, the situation is still fluid here is some background and likely summit scenario. It’s being reported that “topping the agenda will be strategies for salvaging the trio's troubled war resolution at the United Nations.” Actually, the UN aspect is for all intents and purposes DEAD. As most are aware, it was Blair, and to a lesser extent, Aznar, that wanted another UN resolution so desperately. Bush agreed in order to assist his friends, both foreign (UK, Spain) and domestic (doves like Powell). To show just how far he was willing to go for them, Bush made his press conference statement that there would be a UN vote, period. The problem was that Blair had underestimated the French resolve to undermine the “coalition of the willing”. It finally became apparent to him that Chirac would oppose ANY reasonable resolution. This has angered Blair to no end, and he believes that Chirac is trying to end his political career in order to become the “the voice” of the EU and elevate France’s stature. Chirac believes he has Blair trapped, thinking Tony can’t or won’t go to war without another UN resolution. On the other hand, Chirac simply will not agree to any reasonable resolution, while trying to appear that they are open to new proposals. They are not, so he believes he has Blair in a box.

The one thing worse for Blair than going to war without another UN resolution would be going to war after a UN resolution failed to pass, thus the same man who urged Bush to back another resolution is now urging him to abandon his call for a vote. Blair, however, feels he still needs to bring some “international legitimacy” to going to war. A comment made by Bush’s press secretary a few days ago was passed over by the press, but the words were loaded. Ari said “an international coalition WILL disarm Iraq. It may not be the UN, but there will be an international coalition that acts.” What was missed there by the press is that those are more than mere words. Expect those words to become official policy at the Sunday meeting. Again, barring some dramatic developments, this coalition will be made official. It will likely be given a name and have the signatures of the “Big 3” and may be co-signed by several other countries either at the same time, or in the next few days/weeks. This is all to give this alliance as much “legitimacy” as possible, mostly for Blair’s sake. Now, at the same time this new organization is being given legitimacy, it is equally as important for them to discredit the UN. The latter will be given as the reason why another resolution will not be ultimately pursued in the UN. This is an end-around Chirac and his little game, and will be a mighty blow to the UN, at least to the Security Council.

GIT THE US OUTTA THE UN...GIT THE UN OUTTA THE US!!!!

FReegards...MUD

[ricpic]

Mudboy, what I don't get is this: The minute the troops go into Iraq, the American people, and for that matter, the British people, will swing solidly behind them. Oh sure, there will be a gaggle of lefties squacking their heads off; but they will be rendered insignificant, in both countries. Why don't Bush and Blair understand that? Why the endless pas de deux with the nattering nabobs over at the UN? Once our troops change the facts on the ground the influence of the UN itself will be reduced to insignificance. Why don't we, fer chrise sake, roll?!

[Mudboy Slim]

"...what I don't get is this: The minute the troops go into Iraq, the American people, and for that matter, the British people, will swing solidly behind them."

Sounds to me like you git it perfectly...LOL!!

"Oh sure, there will be a gaggle of lefties squacking their heads off; but they will be rendered insignificant, in both countries. Why don't Bush and Blair understand that?"

I think Bush understands it and Blair is coming to understand it, but the War On Terrorism is only partly about Iraq...the United Nations has become a DespotRespite, where the Proponents of Terror get to Chair Human Rights Commissions and the FReePeoples of the World are out-numbered by the TerroristTyrants!! It's easy to whip up an anti-American furor in these Nations where the State controls all sources of information, but the dislike for America is ethereal, IMHO, and we are simply hangin' the UN out to dry!!

"Why the endless pas de deux with the nattering nabobs over at the UN? Once our troops change the facts on the ground the influence of the UN itself will be reduced to insignificance. Why don't we, fer chrise sake, roll?!"

I've been expecting it for weeks, so my saying that I doubt Hussein will be alive this time next week needs to be taken with a grain of salt...however,

I, MudboySlim, Doubt Hussein Will Be Alive This Time Next Week!!

FReegards...MUD

BTW, rp, you know I don't know you from adam, but I KNOW you listen to Limbaugh just based on yer last statement...LOL!!

[ricpic]

Yes Mb, I confess: I be a slave ob duh mighty Rushmeister.

[firewalk]

Good morning Mia...bttt

[Mudboy Slim]

It's one of my addictions that I truly believe is GOOD fer my health...LOL!!

That first caller yesterday was loaded fer bear, wasn't he?!

FReegards...MUD

[jla]

...Gaffney, the former Reagan official, disparaged the giveaway as "dangling goodies in front of people to get them to sign up into our arms-control agenda."

So in other words, the means to create and/or enhance nuclear weapons was given to other countries so that they could then be trusted to show restraint and not actually use this technology?
I myself have to believe that there was never any intent of reaching a verifiable & actual arms control agreement.

I wonder, if The Groper weren't to become involved in politics if he might have ended up in a Las Vegas showroom, entertaining folks twice a night with his slickly-tuned act of legerdemain.

[sushiman]

bump

[Mia T]

CNNs of Commission
Either they are obsolete… or civilization is Q ERTY8 ^BUMP!

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[jla]

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[jla]

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