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To: eno_
Is there something going on in your head, called "intelligence" that cannot be implemented in a machine?

I don't think it has to be intelligence. It's more like motive. Doing a little thought experiment, consider the word "dog". Does it have the same meaning to a child playing with a golden retriever as it does for a child who has been mauled by a pit bull?

In my humble opinion, meaning is an attribute of consciousness and cannot be tokenized. Human language is motivated by the intention of influencing other people's behavior. The deep meaning and purpose of language is not syntactical. Because we live in a culture dominated by written language, and actors and pundits reading scripts, it is easy to lose track of pre-literate language. A lot of what goes on in conversation is "between the lines."

124 posted on 03/17/2003 9:17:13 AM PST by js1138
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To: js1138; eno_; Mamzelle; palmer; ez; Helms; Calcetines; Yardstick; Pan_Yans Wife; RightWhale; ...
Marc Miyake, the author of this article, came out with another reply to his readers, fans, and critics at www.amritas.com about the reponse he's been getting from Free Republic and David Horowitz's Front Page Magazine users:

" 03.3.17.4:44 : NOAM-MORE

"I should really go to sleep - I have a class to teach in 4 1/2 hours - but nooo ...

"Pro-America UH [University of Hawaii] mailing group founder Stuart K. Hayashi [me, ultimate_robber_baron at FreeRepublic; I say I'm a 'co-founder' not 'founder'] has posted a link to my 'Pariah against a Prophet' article at FreeRepublic.com and kindly sent me a sampler of the responses. There are now 118 responses as of this writing - too many for me to reply to. So go check them out for yourselves. Not everything is positive, but I can live with that, because of e-mails like these:

" - 'Expected the Chomskian true believers to defend him with the logical sanity of a 'government and binding' force that includes 'minimal' appeals to reality.' [AMR: Government and Binding and Minimalism are two recent versions of Chomskyanism. I'm waiting for the prophet to come up with a new relevation any day now ...]

" - 'I thought I was the only linguist (PhD Slavic Linguistics, over 50 publications) to dislike both gnome's linguistics and his politics!'

" - 'Excellent article on frontpage!'


"I'm grateful to be appreciated, but I don't plan to bash the trashformational church again in the near future. That gets boring fast. I'd like to be more constructive than destructive. So I want to share some of the lessons I've been teaching my students here in Hilo. I know the thought of school makes some people cringe, but consider this: nobody sleeps in my classes. I found education tedious and dozed off through many classes, so I don't want my students to go through the same thing. I can only reach a few people in my classrooms, but my blog can reach a far wider audience, at least in theory. Stay with me. The show's just starting ..."

125 posted on 03/17/2003 3:43:44 PM PST by ultimate_robber_baron
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