INS Tells Marine He's Not Good Enough For Citizenship.

Fox News | 03/17/2003 | Self

[bluecollarman]

Thanks to all that have contributed to this thread. I have tried, but not been able to find out anymore about the Marine that caused me to start this thread, but hopefully someone will eventually answer.

While searching, I did find the following article it says a lot on the subject of "Non-Citizen Service". I had no idea there were so many or that President Bush signed paperwork to expedite their citizenship requests. The article is long but informative.

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Despite green cards, they're red, white and blue
Newark Star Ledger, NJ - 19 hours ago
... and thoughts of his girlfriend, who is pregnant with their child, have steeled
his resolve to become a citizen and inflamed his passion to be a Marine. ...

[bluecollarman]

"Pray he comes home safe and sound"

Double Amen to that!

[bluecollarman]

"Say, didn't the INS cease to exist? I thought it was absorbed into the OHS."

I think you are correct, but I would imagine people will still refer to it by it's old name for a while.

[TruthNtegrity]

I thought I read a couple of months ago, that folks serving in the Military who weren't yet citizens were going to be granted citizenship. I think it was part of a Pentagon press conference, and was said by Rumsfeld. Could it be he got the President to sign an Executive Order for same?

I agree with all those who said that if this guy is willing to put on a uniform and serve, he should become a citizen.

[Sci Fi Guy]

This is an old move out of the Lib playbook. The American people want immigration reform. So the libs crack down on the rare exceptions to the rule/law. They'll ignore the illegal criminals in our country and focus on people like this marine to try to turn public opinion against any reform.

[Marine Inspector]

Bump to #91.

If this guy is a Sgt. in the Corps, that's good enough for me.

[dcwusmc]

Roger that. Semper fi... Ring me sometime when you have a few minutes... Just to check in.

[philetus]

Same here.

[CaptIsaacDavis]

Please? I assume you referenced the "Minutemen" because you know who Captain Isaac Davis was. Great, and all too rare!

It is pure myth that the units that fought that fateful April were irregulars, for they were part of relatively well-trained and armed civil defense units -- with rules and regs to govern them, including who could participate. The operative phrase below is "citizen" of the colony, and even then including only "gentlemen, freeholders, and other freemen." Non-citizens (as in non-naturalized immigrants), slaves, indebted people, or those of questionable character were not allowed to serve in a militia unit in MA anyway. As you will read below, officers were actually elected at town levels (non-citizens could not participate). This comes from numerous histories, not just the quote below...

From a history of the militia...
"In September 1774 the Continental Congress endorsed a resolution from Suffolk County, Massachusetts, calling for the colonies to reorganize the militias under leadership friendly to the "rights of the people," setting in motion a series of provincial actions that made the militia the cornerstone of armed resistance to British policy through the winter of 1775. Massachusetts moved first to revive the militia's ancient function as the armed guarantor of the civil constitution. In October 1774, the provincial congress instructed local committees of safety to assume responsibility for the training, supply, and mobilization of the colony's militia system. It also directed the CITIZENS in their capacity as militiamen, and "with due deliberation and patriotic regard for the public service," to elect their own company officers. Those chosen in local voting were to elect regimental officers to command the militia at the county level. The provincial congress retained the power to appoint general officers, ensuring that the military order remained ultimately subordinate to civil authority.

"Resolving "that a well-regulated Militia, composed of the gentlemen, freeholders, and other freemen, is the natural strength and only stable security of a free Government," the Maryland convention acted in December 1774 to reorganize its militia under a popularly elected officers corp. ...Six month later, in an effort to provide a source of manpower for the newly formed Continental army, Congress recommended that all states adopt the republican principles embodied in the Massachusetts militia structure - Cress, pp. 48-49

Republican principles in the officers corps...interesting.

[Bigg Red]

We have always had immigration into the armed forces.


That was then. Perhaps you are right about its not being a problem, but I worry about terrorist infiltration.

[Endeavor]

You are giving me too much credit - I was simply referring to the fact that they were British citizens. Thank you, though, for the information - I enjoyed reading it.