[aristotleman]

Just as an exercise in rational thought, exactly how do you explain that Belgium, then Germany, then all the EU felt it was necessary to issue this warning to Turkey? How do you explain that we are firmly telling the Turks "NO" 24 hours a day from every military and diplomatic contact we have?

If you can't shout at the Father, shout at his son.

Indirect pressure.

The EU is now against all who support the US. You'll see how the EU will make it difficult for the prospective countries to join, if they expressed support for this war.

[George W. Bush]

The EU is now against all who support the US. You'll see how the EU will make it difficult for the prospective countries to join, if they expressed support for this war.

Yes, obviously you're right.

As "I" said a while back, "You're either for us or against us".

New Europe is for us, Britain and Australia are for us, Spain and Italy and the non-Weasels of Old Europe are for us, Japan and South Korea are for us, the more progressive and richest Arab oil countries are for us. These all happen to be the strongest and most dynamic populations and economies in the world in coming decades. They are the future. Together, they are the elements of global economic and technological dominance and, therefore, military dominance.

Turkey is against us, Weasel Europe is against us, Russia and China are against us, Canada (sadly) and Mexico are against us, the really awful Arab countries are against us. These are the decaying countries (except China), those who will not reform their economies and/or political systems, the countries who cannot easily adapt to change, the countries who (except for China) are suffering sever population decline. These countries are, generally, the past. You can add to their numbers such lovely spots as North Korea, Sudan, the hellholes of Africa and much of Central/South America.

The rest of the world is pretty much on the sidelines so they can go off and whine at each other at the Non-Aligned Nations conferences or start some puny war to keep themselves entertained.

I really do grow weary of explaining these elementary facts. Your remarks are so, well, twentieth-century. It's a new century and it will be an American century. And Iraq is only the first stop in the War On _______.

Get with the program.