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Faculty, students describe Islam
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| March 26, 2003
| Keith Stevens
Posted on 03/26/2003 11:12:07 PM PST by miltonim
News Faculty, students describe Islam
Keith Stevens Penn Staff Writer March 26, 2003
News
Faculty and students were able to experience an alternate point of view on life and the war Thursday when El-Hajj Mauri' Saalakhan gave a presentation called "Islam: A Religion of Terrorism or a Guidance and Mercy for all Mankind?".
Saalakhan, the director of operations for the Peace and Justice Foundation, spoke about Muslim beliefs, some history and current affairs.
"We are living in very precarious times," Saalakhan said.
Saalakhan first discussed the beliefs of Islam, citing a hadith, or story about the prophet Mohammed, where the angel Gabriel visited Mohammed and questioned him about the beliefs of Islam.
According to Mohammed's response, Muslims are called upon to have faith in Allah, to give alms to the needy and make a pilgrimage to Mecca, while practicing good actions.
"The message that we wanted to convey is that there is only one God ... there are many streams to get to Him," Saalakhan said.
According to Saalakhan, all religions worship the same God, just with different names and systems.
"I've heard evangelists, they say things like 'They don't worship our God' and 'They worship another God' and that's not true," Saalakhan said.
Saalakhan anticipated potential animosity from 9/11 and the violence in the Middle East and made sure to address separate terrorists and dictators from Islam's proper message.
"Islam is something that in the mind of the opinion shapers is opposed to democracy and history does not support this," Saalakhan said.
Saalakhan pointed to great Muslim civilizations in Africa, as well as the Muslim populations on the Iberian Peninsula in the early Middle Ages for examples of the potential for Muslim cultures.
"It was the Muslims in Europe and the foundations they made that opened the doors to the Renaissance," Saalakhan said. "Anywhere Islam is healthy, it is a benefit to humanity."
Saalakhan refuted terrorists by citing another hadith, where Mohammed predicted a time where Muslims would move from the teachings of the Qu'ran and begin campaigns of violence.
"The light of Islam has dimmed because of the ... deviation from the Qu'ran," Saalakhan said.
"There has been a deviation because of deficiency of the human heart."
Islam is not the only faith to lose sight of its goals, Saalakhan said.
"We live in a harmful environment because every faith community has deviated," Saalakhan said. "It's unfortunate, but that's where we are."
Next Saalakhan turned his discussion to the war on Iraq. While agreeing that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant, Saalakhan questioned the motivations of the United States.
"For the longest time, Saddam was our man in Baghdad," Saalakhan said.
According to Saalakhan, the Gulf War was a setup, but he also pointed out that Arab nations in the area neglected their religious obligations.
Saalakhan became interested in Islam around 18 and has written three books, including one of poetry.
The Peace and Justice Foundation is a Muslim-run organization operating out of Washington, D.C., that monitors human rights abuses, primarily in the United States.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: diversityeducation; highereducation; islam; justice; peace
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posted on
03/26/2003 11:12:07 PM PST
by
miltonim
To: miltonim
Islam = Devil worshipping death cult.
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posted on
03/26/2003 11:20:54 PM PST
by
Justice
To: miltonim
"The message that we wanted to convey is that there is only one God ... there are many streams to get to Him," Saalakhan said. According to Saalakhan, all religions worship the same God, just with different names and systems." Very different Ideologies, goals and methods.
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posted on
03/26/2003 11:21:10 PM PST
by
freedom9
To: miltonim
The Peace and Justice Foundation is a Muslim-run organization operating out of Washington, D.C., that monitors human rights abuses, primarily in the United States.Why don't they monitor human rights abuses in Muslim countries? That would keep them busy for a long time. The Left has groups like Human Rights Watch. We need a Fifth Column Watch organization.
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posted on
03/26/2003 11:31:32 PM PST
by
Free ThinkerNY
(((Anti-Antiwar DemonTraitor)))
To: miltonim
"The light of Islam has dimmed because of the ... deviation from the Qu'ran," Saalakhan said.
The Koran on Jews, Christians, Christianity, Christ, the Gospel, The Deity of Christ, the Holy Trinity, the Bible (the Book) and Infidels
http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
"The Women" [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
[3.85] "And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers."
[4.91] You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given.you a clear authority.
The Dinner Table - [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
The Cattle - [6.146] And to those who were Jews We made unlawful every animal having claws, and of oxen and sheep We made unlawful to them the fat of both, except such as was on their backs or the entrails or what was mixed with bones: this was a punishment We gave them on account of their rebellion, and We are surely Truthful.
[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
The Congregation [62.6] Say: O you who are Jews, if you think that you are the favorites of Allah to the exclusion of other people, then invoke death If you are truthful. (PLEASE COMMIT SUICIDE)
The Cow - [2.111] And they say: None shall enter the garden (or paradise) except he who is a Jew or a Christian. These are their vain desires. Say: Bring your proof if you are truthful.
The Dinner Table - The Dinner Table [5.14] And with those who say, We are Christians, We made a covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of, therefore We excited among them enmity and hatred to the day of resurrection; and Allah will inform them of what they did.
[5.72] Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust.
Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q. 2:191), to murder them and treat them harshly (Q. 9:123), slay them (Q. 9: 5), fight with them, (Q. 8: 65 ) even if they are Christians and Jews, humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax (Q. 9: 29). Quran takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and tell clearly that no other religion except Islam is accepted (Q. 3: 85). It relegates those who disbelieve in Quran to hell (Q. 5: 11), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (Q. 9: 28). It orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (Q. 2: 193).
"Fight those who do not profess the true faith [ISLAM], till they pay the jiziya with the hand of humility." - Koran 9: 29
".... I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks [CUT OFF THEIR HEADS], and smite all their finger tips of them [CUT OFF THEIR FINGERS]." - Koran 8: 12
"Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate." - Koran 9: 73
"When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads [CUT OFF THEIR HEADS] and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly." - Koran 47: 4
"The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom...." - Koran 5: 33-34
" Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued." - Koran 9: 29
"....the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures." - Koran 98: 1-8
"Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: 'Taste the torment of the Conflagration!'" - Koran 22: 19-22, 23
"And burn ye him in the blazing fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits. This was he that would not believe in allah Most high and would not encourage the feeding of the indignant. So no friend hath he here this day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds. " - Koran 31-37
"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and genitals cut off, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror." - Koran, 5:33-34)
"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." - Koran, 8:37
The God of Israel has a Son - Jesus Christ of Nazareth; but Allah has no son according to the Koran
Therefore the Biblical Christian God of Israel is not Allah
"They say: Allah has taken a Son (to Himself)! Glory be to Him: he is the Self-sufficient: his is what is in the heavens and what is in the Earth; you have no authority for this; do you say against Allah what you do not know? Say: Those who forge a lie against Allah shall not be successful." - Koran 10:68-69 [SAYS JESUS IS NOT THE SON OF GOD AND WHOEVER SAYS SO IS A LIAR]
"....the Christians call 'Christ the Son Of God'. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but intimate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth." - Koran 9: 30
The Women - [4.171] O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and his Word which he communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and his apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one god; far be It from his glory that he should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector. (CLEARLY STATES THAT JESUS IS **NOT** THE SON OF GOD)
The Immunity - Denial of Deity of Christ and His Messiahship - [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away! (MAY ALLAH DESTROY JEWS AND CHRISTIANS)
Say: "Praise be to Allah Who begets no son and has no partner in (His) dominion: nor (needs) he any to protect him from humiliation: Yea magnify him for his greatness and glory!" - Koran 17: 111
Further that he may warn those (also) who say "Allah hath begotten a son": - Koran 18: 4
It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that he should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When he determines a matter he only says to it "Be" and it is. - Koran 19: 35
They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous! - Koran 19: 88-89
For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that he should beget a son. - Koran 19: 92
No son did Allah beget nor is there any god along with Him: (if there were many gods) behold each god would have taken away what he had created and some would have lorded it over others! Glory to Allah (he is free) from the (sort of) things they attribute to Him! - Koran 23: 91
he begetteth not nor is he begotten; - Koran 112: 3
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posted on
03/26/2003 11:44:01 PM PST
by
Bobby777
To: miltonim
His explanation is like a herring in the moonlight, It shines but it stinks.
These guys are always there to justify, to explain but never to take or allow actions against their Muslim Brothers no matter how vile or evil they may be.
They describe the Muslim civilization of the past, feudal civilizations which only prospered when they were conquering and enslaving. But this is the 21st century and the Muslim world hasn't got a clue how to prosper in the modern world. The Muslim answer is to bring back 1300.
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posted on
03/26/2003 11:44:43 PM PST
by
Mike Darancette
(Ding, Dong Soddom is DEAD)
To: miltonim
The message that we wanted to convey is that there is only one God ... there are many streams to get to Him," Saalakhan said. According to Saalakhan, all religions worship the same God, just with different names and systems.
"I've heard evangelists, they say things like 'They don't worship our God' and 'They worship another God' and that's not true," Saalakhan said.
As Christians in a Christian nation speaking such nonsense to School Children when Christians are not allowed equal access to their own children in schools they pay for..to invite muslims to brainwash our kids with satanic nonsense is unconscienable imo
Jesus said about himself : "I am the truth the way and the life...no man can come to the father but by me"
Jesus is the ONLY way to God and to salvation...
Muslims do not worship the same God as Christians..
Islam denies the deity of Jesus Christ...the deny the Son and the Holy Spirit
Jesus said " If you have seen me you have seen the Father..I and the Father are one.."
When the Pharisies ask Jesus If He Was Messiah.... His reply was " I Am" the meaning of this was not lost on them...when Moses ask God who shall I say sent me....God's response was "Tell them I Am sent you"
Islam denies Jesus was crucified or that He died for man's sins..and in stead of man..they deny His crucifiction His resurection and His Return as Judge..
Muslims Mohammed is equal to Christ yet when one compares the fruits of Muhammed vs those of Jesus the deparity is obvious to those who are able and willing to see the truth...
Muslims do not belive that "all paths lead to God" and willingly enforce conversion at gun point
If so then why do they murder enslave and rape Christian Children an wrap their own children in explosives and send them out to kill others children..
And celebrate death..with much fanfare
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posted on
03/26/2003 11:47:19 PM PST
by
joesnuffy
To: miltonim
"Islam is something that in the mind of the opinion shapers is opposed to democracy and history does not support this," Saalakhan said.
Works of Islamic Terror
1968 Robert Kennedy assassinated - Islamic Terrorist
1970 (?) 4 airliners hijacked, 3 airliners blownup in the Middle East in single operation - - Islamic Terrorists
1970 Jordanian citizens attacked, murdered (by PLO) - - Islamic Terrorists
1972 Munich massacre of Israelis - Islamic Terrorists
1975 Raid on Entebbe, Uganda - Israeli plane hijacked, Israelis murdered - Islamic Terrorists
1983 Lebanon Marine Barracks attack - 250 murdered - Islamic Terrorists
1985 Rome Airport murders - Islamic Terrorists
1985 TWA Flight 847 hijacked, U.S. Navy diver murdered - Islamic Terrorists
1985 Achille Lauro hijacking, murder - Islamic Terrorists
1986 Germany, Disco Bombing, U.S. military personnel murdered - Islamic Terrorists
1988 Pan Am 747 Flight 103 Bombing, Lockerbie, 100's murdered - Islamic Terrorists
1993 World Trade Center attacked - Islamic Terrorists
1996 Khobar Towers attack - Islamic Terrorists
1998 U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 100's murdered - Islamic Terrorists
1998 U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 100's murdered - Islamic Terrorists
1999 Plot to blow up Space Needle - Islamic Terrorists
2000 USS Cole attacked, many U.S. Navy sailors murdered - Islamic Terrorists
2000-2002 Intifada against Israel - 100's dead and injured - Islamic Terrorists
2001 4 Commercial airliners hijacked, 250+ murdered - Islamic Terrorists
2001 World Trade Center attacked, 2800+ murdered - Islamic Terrorists
2001 Flight 93 murders - Islamic Terrorists
2001 Pentagon attacked, 180+ murdered - Islamic Terrorists
2002 Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and murdered - Islamic Terrorists
2002 Philippines American missionary, Filipino nurse killed - Islamic Terrorists
2002 July 4, El Al attack Los Angeles LAX, several murdered - Islamic Terrorist
2002 Bali bombing - 200 dead, 300 injured - Islamic Terrorists
2002 Yemen, French Oil Tanker attacked - Islamic Terrorists
2002 Marines attacked / murdered in Kuwait - Islamic Terrorists
2002 Washington D.C. sniper - Islamic Terrorist
2002 Russian Theater attacked, 100+ dead - Islamic Terrorists
2002 Nigerian riots against Miss World Pageant, 200 dead, dozens injured - Islamic Terrorists
2002 Mombasa Hotel Attacked, 12 dead, dozens injured - Islamic Terrorists
2002 Israeli Boeing 757 attacked by missiles, fortunately no one injured - Islamic Terrorists
PLO - Islamic Terrorists
PFLP - Islamic Terrorists
Black September - Islamic Terrorists
Fatah - Islamic Terrorists
Islamic Jihad - Islamic Terrorists
Hizbollah - Islamic Terrorists
Hamas - Islamic Terrorists
Yasser Arafat - Islamic Terrorist
Osama bin Laden - Islamic Terrorist
Khaled Shaikh Mohammed - Islamic Terrorist
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posted on
03/26/2003 11:49:52 PM PST
by
Bobby777
To: miltonim
"Islam is something that in the mind of the opinion shapers is opposed to democracy and history does not support this," Saalakhan said. Saalakhan pointed to great Muslim civilizations in Africa, as well as the Muslim populations on the Iberian Peninsula in the early Middle Ages for examples of the potential for Muslim cultures.Gee! I forgot the name of those Great African Muslim Democracies. Can anyone name a few?
To: miltonim
Islam is a barbaric, medieval, death cult that worships a violent desert "moon-god" and his magic rock.
There is no getting around what "Islam" is, and who their "Prophet" was.
Allah is not Jehovah, and never was.
Islam and "Allah" are merely elements of Judaism/monotheism, mixed in with the older, violent, pagan Bedouin religion - the cult of the "moon-god" (the "Crescent" symbolism of the Arab world) and the meteorite called 'The Kabba Stone' that the ignorant Bedouins thought was a "magic rock".
Now they put the "magic rock" in a building and have convinced over a billion gullible idiots to come to Mecca at least once in their lives, to walk in circles around the "magic rock" in the scorching Arabian sun.
To: Master of Orion
"Saalakhan pointed to great Muslim civilizations in Africa, as well as the Muslim populations on the Iberian Peninsula in the early Middle Ages for examples of the potential for Muslim cultures."Any examples of Islamic cultural achievements in the past 600 years?
Anybody?
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posted on
03/27/2003 12:03:01 AM PST
by
Wormwood
To: joesnuffy
Well said.
Islam is a death cult.
Islam means "submit"...and it's an order.
Islam represses Christians and Jews wherever it has established itself as part of the state. And Islamic states have perpetrated countless barbarities and atrocities against native Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc.
Islam is the only religion that orders the death of all unbelievers.
Islam is not a religion, it's a plague.
To: Wormwood
Yeah! He says examples of the potential for Muslim cultures. Maybe, somewhere down the road they dropped the ball and never realized their potential or maybe their cultural beliefs were not in step with the cultural progress of the rest of the world (The Enlightenment)? I'd go for the second.
To: american colleen
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posted on
04/05/2003 9:31:10 PM PST
by
Jael
(The memory of the just is blessed)
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