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Stuck in the Quicksand (Hackworth Article Poor Timing Alert)
SFTT.Org ^ | April 1, 2003 | David H. Hackworth

Posted on 04/03/2003 6:00:43 PM PST by PJ-Comix

Since Vice President Dick Cheney said he saw the war in terms of “weeks rather than months,” I wish I could report that Tommy Franks’ grunts were beating Desert Storm's 100-hour-war record set by Stormin’ Norman's studs in 1991. But because Saddam got the message in 1991 that his army couldn't stand toe-to-toe with our military machine and walk away the winner, that's sadly not the case.

Instead, Saddam’s sadists took a page from the post-World War I German Command, which came up with a smart new way of doing war business after waving the white flag and subsequently blitzkrieged its way across Europe in just over a year.

The vanquished tend to question why they lost and adjust their battle tactics and gear accordingly. The victors seldom bother to mess with success. Which is probably why, given Desert Storm's easy score, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld felt comfortable going back to the Gulf with four combat divisions – even though the president authorized eight. Especially when air power's “shock and awe” promised a quicker, cheaper win.

Now we're stuck in the Iraqi quicksand in a soon-to-be burning desert with guerrillas tearing up our rear, doing unto our troops whatever unconventional fighters did to the French at Moscow, the Germans at Stalingrad, the Americans in Vietnam and Somalia, the Soviets in Afghanistan and the Russians in Chechnya.

While Saddam was watching videotapes of “Apocalypse Now” and “Black Hawk Down” and taking notes, Donald Rumsfeld and Gen. Richard Myers – badly misjudging Iraq's determination – chose to refight Desert Storm.

The Dream Team made three classic mistakes:

* Not understanding the enemy or the nature of the war.

* Thinking smart bombs would do the job.

* Underestimating the patriotism of the average Saddam-hating Iraqi and how fiercely he'd fight for his country.

Sources who participated in the year-long war games prepping for Operation Iraqi Freedom say prescient junior officers – pointing out that Saddam was publicly ordering his people to prepare to fight unconventionally – pushed strongly for scenarios to include: insurgent strikes to soft rear areas with missiles; hit-and-run guerillas cutting our supply lines; and other suicide assaults such as car bombs.

But the brass blew off their paramilitary prophecy as radical thinking. Majors don't win verbal wars with generals – particularly slick political types under the thumb of an overpowering SecDef who seems to have bet a lot of lives on technology.

A concerned retired general says: “I think the combination of Rumsfeld and the current chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, an Air Force man, is a dangerous mix. I'm sure Myers is a superb combat pilot, but that doesn't qualify him for influencing a ground campaign. And there's never been a war won by air alone. Sure, it sets the conditions for final victory, but until you get the troops on the ground to do the dirty, dangerous work, you can never achieve victory. The final truth is that our soldiers and Marines and airman always have to take our plans and make them work.”

During the Vietnam War, our leadership managed to violate all nine Principles of War. In Iraq, as in Vietnam, we have control of the air but don't have Initiative on the ground, Mass, Surprise, etc. And most of the top brass support Rumsfeld's scary impersonation of former Defense Secretary Robert McNamara by agreeing that victory is just around the next guerrilla-ambush corner.

Talk about denial. Last week, Operations Chief Maj. Gen. Victor Renuart, holding court at Central Command's prime-time version of the Spinners Club, said a car-bomb attack that killed four soldiers came from “an organization that's getting desperate” and not playing by the rules. Big surprise!

George W. Bush needs to immediately reassess his war plan, bring in more combat troops, heed the advice of his fighting generals on the ground rather than his team of mainly chicken-hawk advisers and immediately readjust his tactics. He needs to get real and apply the lessons learned from the Russians in Chechnya and the Israelis in Lebanon – and to understand what went wrong in Vietnam.

Hopefully then, he won't make the mistake of another Texas president who didn't sack his SecDef and Joint Chiefs chairman straight away for their screw-ups – an error so egregious it cost our country almost 60,000 American lives and LBJ his presidency.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: armchairgenerals; davidhackworth; iraq; iraqifreedom; quagmire
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To: Conservababe
Everyone is so willing and able to criticize everything Hackworth says, including, I suppose, his use of the words "the" and "and" without giving thought to anything he says. It's all or nothing. So you don't credit the article. Is there nothing of value in it? Why tear the man down for giving an opinion? Even fools have some good ideas now and then, and I don't consider Col Hackworth a fool, just old, like me, but with a great deal more experience.
61 posted on 04/03/2003 6:34:26 PM PST by Sir Charles
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To: PJ-Comix
Hackworth on Larry King now: "There's no question that we would win this war. This is Paul Bunyan with a sledge hammer trying to kill some ants in an anthill."
62 posted on 04/03/2003 6:34:26 PM PST by hotpotato
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To: Mr. Mojo
that is a pre-requisite for being on larry seltzers show !
63 posted on 04/03/2003 6:36:29 PM PST by 1poedpatriot
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To: Mr. Mojo
Hackworthless is spewing his garbage on Larry King right now.

I tuned it in and Hack is talking about how quickly the Iraqi army is capitulating. I guess Hack doesn't stand by his own columns such as this one predicting Doom & Gloom.

64 posted on 04/03/2003 6:37:40 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
He's also stating he is still a critic and it's ok to criticize when you have the training (like he does, I presume).
65 posted on 04/03/2003 6:39:37 PM PST by hotpotato
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To: PhiKapMom
Yesterday McCaffrey backed way off and was praising General Myers and General Franks like crazy. Called General Myers the absolute best General for the job of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

I have a bit of experience with "Generals". And after watching the various residents of the position of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, I'm inclined to say that my vote for the best goes to Myers. And that includes Powell, and definitely that Clinton suck-up Shelton. Oh, my God am I glad that Shelton is not the current Chairman.

I don't recall ever hearing a general who was more praising of his subordinates than Myers. He has repeatedly credited Gen. Franks for the planning and excersize of the plan in Iraq. That's the measure of a great man.

66 posted on 04/03/2003 6:39:38 PM PST by jackbill (i)
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To: PJ-Comix
Hey, I looked at the date. April Fool's joke. Right?
67 posted on 04/03/2003 6:39:56 PM PST by RJayneJ
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To: PJ-Comix
Hackworth is on Larry King right now STILL being very critical ("We didn't have enough troops on the ground", etc etc, bitch bitch bitch).

The guy has lost it. I'm sorry for him, but he shouldn't be presented as any sort of expert.
68 posted on 04/03/2003 6:40:03 PM PST by Ole Okie (Q)
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To: PJ-Comix
Yeah, he's doing some serious backpedaling ....with a sh/t-eating grin.
69 posted on 04/03/2003 6:40:15 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Sir Charles
Mr Charles

I do not consider Hackworth a fool. But, I will judge him on his own words. And I do not like his words or his opinions.

But, I like you. You are a sweetie. <>
70 posted on 04/03/2003 6:40:17 PM PST by Conservababe (I calls it like I sees it.)
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To: hotpotato
Hackworth on Larry King now: "There's no question that we would win this war. This is Paul Bunyan with a sledge hammer trying to kill some ants in an anthill."

I saw that....Hackworth is really making himself look ridiculous.

A caller just asked them to comment on the "armchair generals" BS.....and Hackworth is trying to spin his way out of his previous position. What a bozo.

71 posted on 04/03/2003 6:40:18 PM PST by Jorge
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To: mc10
McCaffrey is a total joke which made his backtracking so funny! Couldn't even stick by his statements when confronted and tried to suck up! He looked even worse than he did when he was trashing!
72 posted on 04/03/2003 6:40:30 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: PJ-Comix
The transformation of Hackworth has been amazing. I think he needs to check his blood sugar.

It's sad to see him become as non-relevant as the UN.

73 posted on 04/03/2003 6:42:26 PM PST by wcbtinman (Not from 'my cold dead hands', but from your's.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Yeah, he's doing some serious backpedaling ....with a sh/t-eating grin.

PERFECT description of the look on his face. Too bad some caller doesn't call in with some quotes from this article.

74 posted on 04/03/2003 6:43:44 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: Retrofire
ala Marcincko

At least Marchinko is entertaining, in a "Big Dumb Polak" sort of way. My daughter's new father in law has met him, and since he's a big ol Polak himself, but an ex Air Force "Good Guy" as well, he grins like a Chesire cat when he talks about it.

75 posted on 04/03/2003 6:44:32 PM PST by El Gato
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To: jackbill
I am with you on General Myers. I thought he would be good but he has exceeded every expectation that I had.

The other one I didn't like too was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs who came in after Powell -- cannot spell his name. His Uncle was a General in the Russian Army.

Couldn't stand Shelton either. I can remember watching a DoD Budget hearing very late one night on C-SPAN. Senator Inhofe asked General Mike Ryan whether the Air Force had enough money and General Ryan told it like it was about how much training was down because of lack of funds, etc. Went through everything that was being neglected and General Shelton kept trying to interrupt him but the Senator kept telling him to go on. If looks could kill, General Ryan wouldn't be with us because Shelton and Cohen were really irritated at him. It was a priceless moment.
76 posted on 04/03/2003 6:45:50 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: PJ-Comix
hack has turned into such a hack I won't even bother reading this article.
77 posted on 04/03/2003 6:46:07 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: PhiKapMom
i have enjoyed seeing him humiliate himself, unfortunately at the attempted expense of some real heroes. I believe he may have accomplished a bigger feat of humiliation than HERaldo.
78 posted on 04/03/2003 6:46:50 PM PST by mc10
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To: Sir Charles
Is there nothing of value in it [the article]? Why tear the man down for giving an opinion?

1) Yes, there is something value in the article. It makes the case for Hackworth's insanity beautifully.

2) We're not tearing down Hack for giving an opinion; we're tearing down his opinion itself. Do you understand the distinction?

79 posted on 04/03/2003 6:46:52 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: PJ-Comix
Someone needs to inform Hackworth that it's way passed time for him to shut his mouth about this war.

American lives are on the line and he's not helping at all.

80 posted on 04/03/2003 6:47:17 PM PST by Bullish
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