Jewish lawmakers threaten walk-out over reference to Jesus

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 3, 2003 | Diana Lynne

[yonif]

I disagree. When a rabbi offers a convocation he prays his own way and a Christian should pray his. Tolerance is being polite in the face of something you dont agree with.

Yes, but not in this setting. The purpose of a convocation is for it to be directed towards everyone who are listening. The fact not everyone was Christain made it inappropriate, in my Jewish opinion, to refrence Jesus. He should have just chosen something that did not have this reference.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

..here's no reason to be in anybody's face about one's religion...

'In your face', with an opening prayer. LOL!

Sinky, you're as predictable as the tide.

[TopQuark]

This is a Christian nation, but I do not think they should be forced to listen.

This nation was founded on Christian principles by deeply religious people. It is not the same thing as to say that this is a Christian nation. If I am not a Christian --- does not make me a part of this nation?

[nothingnew]

Hey...get over here...you'll like this one!

[sauropod]

Yeah, right.

Aziz Al-Taee has attended a number of our Patriot's Rallys.

He refers to Allah. It offends me. But I tolerate it because Aziz is a true friend. His heart is in the right place.

Even if Islam is a cult.

[rmlew]

Snotty liberal JINOs.

[Illbay]

This was NOT the time or place to try to make a statement of this kind. I don't believe you respect another religion by highlighting differences.

If these Jewish people had come to this ministers Church as his guest, and heard him pray in the name of Jesus Christ, and then chose to be offended, I'd agree they were off-base.

But that's not where they were.

[ApesForEvolution]

Have you ever read the New Testament?

[Sloth]

This wasn't ABOUT his faith, it was about providing a service for others.

A 'service'? Like fixing the plumbing?

How is a clergyman supposed to separate his faith from his public prayer? That's insane.

[Hoppean]

Keep in mind that most of the "Christians" in the country make no attempt to lead a Christian life. If they go to church, it is because the neighbors expect it, or to make business contacts or for the socializing. They are nominal Christians because mommy and Daddy are nominal Christians and they haven't enough originality in them to think about religion or what they believe or don't.

You're right, that's a fair point to make.

[DoughtyOne]

Can I copy that? I don't want to make any mistakes. ROTFL

[Courier]

Totally different point of view

http://www.sunspot.net/news/local/bal-md.prayer03apr03,0,2538672.story?coll=bal-local-headlines

Jews seem to have had very little to do with it and tried to help.

[sauropod]

"Or, maybe the Maryland House could just abandon invocations and prayer - it's about the smarmiest bunch of politicians in America anyway - way beyond God's, or Jesus' help."

There's truth in that.

[ApesForEvolution]

Spoken like the religious people of a false works faith I hear over and over again...

[sauropod]

'Pod is not an adversary of Judah.

[yonif]

That's absolute BS, this country was founded on CHRISTIAN principles. What BS history have you been tought??? But, I agree, it's definately not a Christian country anymore. I don't know what it is.

Who came first? Jews or Christians?

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...I agree with the Jewish people there. They should have removed references to Jesus....

So when the chips are down, you'll stand with a couple of intolerant liberal Democrats, as long as they're Jewish?

[muawiyah]

In answer to your question of finding an acceptable prayer for a mixed group (noting that you've heard plenty of ministers come up with them), you need to know that not all Protestant denominations believe the same things, or deal with commonly held religious traditions in the same way.

For example, there's the issue of headgear in church, or during prayers. Most Christian groups don't come down on it one way or the other. Some believe that headgear is idolotrous.

The deal is that if Mr. Miller and other bigots want to keep hard-core fundamentalist Christian ministers out of the Maryland State legislature, all they have to do is make the "In Jesus Name" business a big issue. Notice that Miller blames it on the Jews - we fully expect him to acquire a monopoly on the sale of armbands in the near future.