[a_Turk]

Look, the facts are quite a bit different than they are represented to you through the media. Yes we're mobilized, but it has nothing to do with Kurd hate.

And that you are not in touch with what is really going on is evident in your surprized behavior once your new buddies Talabani and Barzani entered the cities where 1) you told them not to go, and 2) where they are not among friends.

Soon as they went in they burnt every damned deed and all population records that were there.. Why? Figure it out.. Not to make life easier for you when you are ready to bring law and order back to the two cities up north I wager..

Talabani and Barzani are unelected feudal pseudo-monarchs who (not unlike the Kennedies LOL!) owe their existence to smuggling. Oh, and also to their daddies smuggling.

The best people in the world can be the most dangerous and the worst people on earth when led by the wrong people. Talabani and Barzani are such bad news. They harbor terrorists. Those are the facts on the ground....

[Mortimer Snavely]

I'm going to leave you to it, abi, I've got a lot of stuff I've got to do, including eating a large steamed Dungeness crab.

[jackbob]

your new buddies Talabani and Barzani

That's news to me. I do not even recognize their names.

I'll admit, that I tend to believe that where a people seek independence, my first reaction is to say let them have it. That is not an absolute with me. I've discovered far to many times how wrong I was (i.e. my original opinion in support of Kosovo's revolt against Serbia). While my ignorance may be with out limits, it does not mean that I am dead set on one conclusion. I for one, will consider your arguments when you make them. But you have not as yet proved to me that all is peaceful.

Peace through out history has been an dream we all want. War is a fact.