[HamiltonJay]

What are you talking about there would be no MAC or TEC series? Submachine guns certainly would have been developed with or without the assault weapons ban, militaries are constantly developing weapons... I find your argument that innovation has been stifled in firearms unsupported by facts. Seems like nothing more than opinion.

You seem to forget that single biggest driver of weapons technology, is unquestionably the military and warfare, not joe consumer. R&D certainly has not stopped in firearms, nor will it stop.

[error99]

"...Seems like nothing more than opinion. ..."
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Yup.
That's exactly right.
And, gee, I thought that is what this thread was about...
Silly me!
How dare I have an opinion!
You are a pretty fart smucker, aren't you?
And I suppose your pixels are more than just opinion?
Pardon me, while once again, I ignore your arrogance.

[AAABEST]

You seem to forget that single biggest driver of weapons technology, is unquestionably the military and warfare, not joe consumer.

No, you don't know what you're talking about, not the poster you replied to.

Most innovations made to small arms technology throughout history due to innovative private citizens who lived in a free country. If the AWB would have been in place long ago, there would never have been a John Browning, Eugene Stoner or possibly even Samual Colt. You know who those people are don't you?

Your statement above "unquestionably" get's the horsecrap statement of the day award, even though it's early.

[William Terrell]

Your problem is that these military weapons aren't available to the public. We may have a problem here.

If, and historical debates bear this out, the main object of the 2nd amendment is to insure citizens a means of resisting tyranny from their own government;

and, if that govcernment has weapons far in advance of those available to the citizens;

and, if over a period of years chilled innovation puts the citizens in the position of having arms compared to government arms as muskets to AR-15s,

Then we would be in truly deep doo-doo vis a vis the original purpose of an armed citizentry, don't you think?

[Double Tap]

Ever heard the name Garand? How about Browning? How about Stoner?

What do these names have in common?

They were all civilians that developed machine guns and small arms technology and then sold the designs to the military.

With the present laws in place, that will never happen again, ever.

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

You seem to forget that single biggest driver of weapons technology, is unquestionably the military and warfare, not joe consumer. R&D certainly has not stopped in firearms, nor will it stop.

I fail to see how the military's needs drove the market and R&D for the concealed pistol wave we are experiencing.

Undoubtedly the military drives R&D but a market force has been artificially eliminated by the gun laws.

If the AWB is allowed to sunset you will see more inovation not less or the same. There is nothing wrong with the military and civilian sector driving the market.

The AWB drives prices up on existing pre-ban equipment and keeps the Post ban market from achieving all possible growth product line and innovation.

Why should I be limited to buying used 100 round magazines? What's the point except to cause a lot of consumers to be unable to purchase the 100 round drum mag because they cost over 350 bucks?