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'Russian spies told Saddam how Bush would justify war'
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | April 20, 2003 | David Harrison

Posted on 04/19/2003 4:28:40 PM PDT by MadIvan

David Harrison in Baghdad uncovers the secret documents which expose the extent of Moscow's involvement

The full extent of the help given to Saddam Hussein by Russia's intelligence services is laid bare in secret documents uncovered by The Telegraph.

As well as spying on Tony Blair, Russian agents reported to Iraq that President George W. Bush hoped to justify war by provoking a conflict with the UN weapons inspectors.

The documents were obtained from the smoking ruins of the federal headquarters of the Iraqi Intelligence Service (Iris) in central Baghdad.

They show that, only months before war began, the Russian Federal Security Bureau briefed Saddam that the White House was pinning its hopes on Iraq obstructing the weapons inspection teams.

The information, which appears to draw on intelligence from Russian agents and diplomats around the world, is likely to have helped Saddam formulate his strategy of "hide and seek" with weapons inspectors, rather than obstruct them openly as he had done during previous inspections.

In a report dated November 13, 2002, the Russian security bureau informs its Iraqi counterpart that America had launched a two-month propaganda campaign to win public support for the war.

The Russians say in the report that Washington feels that two months would be long enough to cause a breakdown in relations between UN inspectors and Iraq, making it impossible for inspections to continue.

America believes that it would then be able to accuse Iraq of breaking agreements and so justify military action against Saddam, according to the report from Moscow.

The revelations about Russia's intelligence services follow The Telegraph's disclosure last weekend that they spied on Tony Blair during private meetings with Western leaders, including Silvio Berlusconi, Italy's prime minister, to discuss the war.

According to Iraqi intelligence documents, this information was then passed on to Baghdad.

The papers also revealed how Moscow had given Saddam a list of assassins, details of Russian arms deals with countries in the Middle East, and Osama bin Laden's plans to fund camps to train Arab terrorists to fight in Chechnya.

The Russian report about President Bush is headed: "Propaganda to secure a United States military operation against Iraq". An Iraqi intelligence officer attached a note to the report saying: "We will pass this to M4 and take it to the President."

The report says: "The Bush administration has taken a decision to make a more active information and propaganda campaign to secure military action against Iraq.

"The White House has ordered the relevant departments to increase activities to acquire and make public any [including circumstantial and fabricated] 'proofs, testimonies and facts' which reveal direct links between Baghdad and international terrorists and its eagerness to possess weapons of mass destruction."

It adds that American embassies are already informing managers of mass media loyal to the US in different countries and says that Washington plans to organise "special seminars and round tables" to influence international public opinion. "In particular," the Russian report says, "the United State's foreign missions in Latin America are already taking active steps in this direction". The Moscow intelligence service tells the Iraqis that the Bush administration would continue the propaganda campaign for up to two months.

"In Washington they think that during this period they will manage to provoke a conflict between the UN inspectors and Iraqi authorities and to render the Unmovic work 'impossible', to accuse Iraq of breaking agreements and to open the way to a military operation against Baghdad."

I found the new documents after a second search, lasting many hours, among the rubble and burnt-out offices of the Iraqi intelligence headquarters, which are now being combed by looters, many armed.

"Before the fall of Baghdad we would have been shot for coming anywhere near the entrance to these buildings," said a 29-year-old looter called Mahmood, struggling with an armchair he had taken from the office of a senior intelligence officer.

They were joined, however, by Iraqis on a poignant but forlorn quest for clues about what had happened to relatives who had been arrested and taken to Saddam's dreaded intelligence headquarters, never to be seen again.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: berlusconi; hideandseek; intelligence; iraq; iraqifreedom; moneytrail; prequel; russia; spies; trainingcamps; unmovic; war; weaponsinspections
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Those utter bastards.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 04/19/2003 4:28:40 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: hoosiermama; MeekMom; Dutchgirl; Freedom'sWorthIt; Carolina; patricia; annyokie; ...
Bump!
2 posted on 04/19/2003 4:28:52 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: PhiKapMom
ping
3 posted on 04/19/2003 4:29:31 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth.....)
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To: MadIvan
When Iraqi oil begins hitting the market, the Russkies are gonna get their comeuppance.
4 posted on 04/19/2003 4:34:03 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: MadIvan
Cold War Part II. Add in the French. The Germans may get one chance to come grovelling back, and maybe not.

The Russian bastards haven't really changed at all, or learned anything at all from the first time we took them down.

5 posted on 04/19/2003 4:34:49 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: MadIvan
Those utter bastards.

Completely heartless Ruskies!

6 posted on 04/19/2003 4:38:46 PM PDT by JustPiper (Anti-War Protestors Are The Terrorist's Bodyguard!!!)
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To: MadIvan
The papers also revealed how Moscow had given Saddam a list of assassins, details of Russian arms deals with countries in the Middle East, and Osama bin Laden's plans to fund camps to train Arab terrorists to fight in Chechnya.

Why would Russia give information regarding terrorists trained to fight in Chechnya to Saddam? The Russians are the ones fighting for control of Chechnya.

This statement alone is enough for me to doubt the veracity of this report.

7 posted on 04/19/2003 4:39:24 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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Guys I am sitting here reading this stuff simply amazed. Utterly amazed......
8 posted on 04/19/2003 4:41:48 PM PDT by Dog (Christy Lane Free Zone.....)
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To: MadIvan
None of this makes sense. What are we to make of this? That Saddam needed the Russians to tell him the fuss would be about hidden WMD? He couldn't pick up a newspaper? He couldn't figure out that the best way to foil the infidel Americans was to cooperate fully with inspectors?
9 posted on 04/19/2003 4:42:12 PM PDT by WarrenC
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To: MadIvan; All
I'm just asking: Weren't Bush and Putin kissy face a while back?

And, if anyone reading this knows, what do biblical scholars say about Russia and the end times?

Thanks.
10 posted on 04/19/2003 4:44:29 PM PDT by viaveritasvita
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To: MadIvan
As bad as this is, we're releasing only what we want the Russians to see...

We can imagine there is, or will be far more damaging evidence of Russian back-stabbing than is let on at this point. Perhaps we shall also discover further proof of a collaborative Russian-German-French conspiracy?

11 posted on 04/19/2003 4:47:32 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: Dog
The old (rotting) socialist Europe play to create a new bi-polar power structure was much more advanced than was ever considered during this episode. More than wondering if they were attempting this on the fly -- using the Iraqi event as an impetus -- we maybe should think that this was planned well in advance (we did broadcast our intentions pretty clearly post - 9/11), and the Iraqi event was merely used as an unveiling for what was already a mature concept.
12 posted on 04/19/2003 4:47:59 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: MadIvan
I guess Bush could have had all his plans stopped if Iraq had complied with 1441. That seems pretty simple.
13 posted on 04/19/2003 4:51:28 PM PDT by doug from upland ((to Bill)"You are not fit to be commander in chief" -- father of Sgt. Shughart who died in Somalia)
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To: MadIvan
bttt
14 posted on 04/19/2003 4:51:45 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: MadIvan
Excuse me ... they were only protecting their interests; even if they did conflict with the USA. Why is everybody having such a knee-jerk reaction?

Wouldn't you want us to protect our interests in the same way ...??

Besides, it's obvious Saddam didn't listen to them. They miscalculated because Saddam has such an ego, he would not listen to anyone; they wasted their breath.
15 posted on 04/19/2003 4:53:06 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Because we're the last "Superpower", thus ineligable for fairness from the international community. Don't pay any attention to China standing in the corner awaiting the right time to pounce on you.
Should the anti-Americans get the communist government they pine for the greatest enablers (Kennedy, Schumer, Feinstein, Waxman, Rangel, Braun, etc.) would be very surprised to find the gun-barrel pressed against their heads first. They're just too stupid to understand what their doing.
17 posted on 04/19/2003 5:07:46 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Reagonite: only mineral known to sap the strength of anti-Americans.)
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To: MadIvan
I'm shocked!!
18 posted on 04/19/2003 5:12:35 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: MadIvan
'Russian spies told Saddam how Bush would justify war'

I seem to remember George Bush telling Saddam how he would justify war.

19 posted on 04/19/2003 5:17:46 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: MadIvan
najor bump
20 posted on 04/19/2003 5:19:52 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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