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Eerie Silence in Hollywood as Anti-War Stars Vanish
Reuters ^ | April 27, 2003 | Dan Whitcomb

Posted on 04/27/2003 9:19:28 AM PDT by alloysteel

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In the weeks leading up to war in Iraq actors Martin Sheen, Mike Farrell, Sean Penn and Janeane Garofalo joined a cast of thousands in a fierce Hollywood resistance played out in protest marches and from the sofas of television talk shows.

But with the war in its waning hours, all is quiet on the western coast -- leading conservatives to suggest that Garofalo and her fellow travelers are in full retreat from a public backlash and feeling chastened by a swift American victory.

Liberals fear Hollywood's left-wing stars are being muzzled and their careers placed in jeopardy from what actor Tim Robbins, called in a recent speech a "climate of fear."

But Mike Farrell, star of television's "MASH" and organizer of "Artists United to Win Without War," told Reuters that those who joined the loyal opposition in Hollywood had not been silenced and certainly were not backing down.

Instead, he said, the "huge coalition" of those opposed to the war were gathering strength and preparing to fight another day -- over post-war Iraq, domestic issues and future "preemptive strikes" by the Bush administration.

"What's the point of me saying anything right now, while they're in the end zone doing the dance and spiking the football?" Farrell said. "They are going to do the thing they are going to do, but we'll be heard from when it's appropriate and in the manner that is appropriate."

GAROFALO SOLDIERS

Garofalo, working hard on her upcoming ABC sitcom, did not respond to interview requests for this story. But she told the Washington Post last week that her anti-war stance had been a "positive" experience that had helped her career.

"Before this I was a moderately well-known character actress," she told the paper. "Now, I'm almost famous."

A spokeswoman for Penn, who infuriated many Americans by visiting Iraq in December on his own fact-finding mission, said the actor was not granting interviews. Sheen's publicist said the man who plays president on "The West Wing" was "not talking to anybody right now."

Farrell lamented the backlash to celebrities who spoke out -- notably in the case of the Dixie Chicks, who saw radio stations yank their music off the air and fans smash their CDs after Texas-born lead singer Natalie Maines told a London audience she was "ashamed" that Bush hailed from her state.

Maines has since apologized and the band said during a tearful ABC-TV interview that they feared for their lives after getting death threats. But Farrell said the backlash came from a small number of Americans galvanized by the Bush administration and conservative radio talk show hosts.

"There was a well-orchestrated campaign to do that through hate radio and Web sites and voices that sprang from the (Bush) administration and said 'take your choice, you're with us or with the terrorists,"' he said.

"But the Dixie Chicks are back on the air and their record is number one again," he said. "Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon are not going to stop making movies for a long time. Janeane Garofalo has a (TV) pilot going forward. These ugly-mouthed people like to think they are more powerful than they are."

STILL OPPOSED

Farrell said that the ability of U.S. troops to topple Saddam Hussein's regime in relatively short order has not softened his opposition to the war.

"An illegal war is an illegal war no matter what the result. We'll never know now what could have been achieved through peaceful means."

Prof. Howard Suber, founding director of UCLA's film and television producer's program, said the eerie silence from Hollywood was to be expected once American troops were on the ground in Iraq.

"It's one thing to oppose the war and it's another thing entirely to appear that you are supporting the enemy," Suber said. "That's the trap Jane Fonda fell into when she went to North Vietnam (during the Vietnam War) and was a labeled traitor. I know of no public figure who supported Saddam, so once the troops are in the field you've got to shut up."

But, he added: "To suggest they've been muzzled I think is bull. They've just got nothing to say. Once the deed is done there's nothing to say until the next time."

Allan Mayer, a top Hollywood crisis public relations manager, said a few performers not used to dabbling in politics had been given a wake-up call by the blistering public response to their remarks.

"Clearly Natalie Maines didn't have an inkling of the kind of reaction she was going to provoke," Mayer said, adding, "There's a level of vitriol in the air that I haven't seen since the Vietnam War."


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To: GnuHere
I didn't know who she was before and I don't want to know now except to avoid watching her if she comes on TV
61 posted on 04/27/2003 1:44:31 PM PDT by Walnut
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To: alloysteel
"But the Dixie Chicks are back on the air and their record is number one again," he said.

Nice try, Mikey. They only went back up on the COUNTRY charts, and even that was due entirely to leftists going out to buy the record to "support the cause," not because they like the music or even know who the Chicks are, other than Bush-haters. And now it's back down to #3, annihilated by a new album you may have heard of: It's called "Have You Forgotten" by Darryl Worley, which DEBUTED at #1.

62 posted on 04/27/2003 1:45:39 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: alloysteel
With Saddam toppled, these "Hate America First" types have no one to provide aid and comfort to.

They'll sit this one out (the time that they should be held accountable for their words and actions in opposition to Iraqi Freedom) and come back when there is something else they can bitch and moan about (like the nature of the government we establish).

Hollywood was never brought to bear the consequences of their support of Joe Stalin either. Sure there were the HCUAA hearings but they've spun that today to mean that there were no communists sympathizing with Joe Stalin (a man who killed more of his people than Hitler sent to the death camps) and that people had just as much right to be Communists in America as they did being Democrats or Republicans.

63 posted on 04/27/2003 1:50:19 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: rwfromkansas; alloysteel; cake_crumb
Where did you hear that Drew Carey was cancelled to make room for Garofalo? That simply isn't the case. ABC is contractually obligated to air one more entire season of Drew Carey, and it starts on June 25.
64 posted on 04/27/2003 1:55:55 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: cake_crumb
It doesn't matter how good Garafolo's sitcom might be,

30 minutes of her in a cage geting hit in the face with pies, dung, rotten tomatoes... You've got to admit that you'd probably be willing to tune in and watch at least the first episode of that.

Sponsored by the makers of CROW - It's what's for dinner(TM)

65 posted on 04/27/2003 1:56:30 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Noumenon
"The concepts of right and wrong, good and evil are anathema to leftists."

That's a good point. Socialist philosophy really demands that everything be seen in shades of grey, else how possibly can everyone be treated differently and arbitrarily in the great effort to make them all equal?

What I have trouble understanding is why entertainers are so drawn to totalitarianism.

66 posted on 04/27/2003 1:57:28 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: cake_crumb; winner3000
Good point, but don't watch the first episode. The ratings for the first episode will be the ones the leftist rags will be watching for with bated breath. We need a Neilson rating of 2% for the little sleaze.

Unless you have a Nielsen box, they're not going to know what you watch. Just ignore it for the sheer pleasure of not giving the little shrew your time. :)

67 posted on 04/27/2003 1:58:38 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: alloysteel
Someone needs to create a ping list, for Freeper households that are part of the Neilson's rating system. Then remind all of them, of their option to simply tune out Garofalo's premiere.
68 posted on 04/27/2003 2:08:42 PM PDT by US admirer
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To: alloysteel
While they're apologizing to Bush and to the American people for being such ignorant asses about the war, in light of recent developments in Cuba, they also take time to apologize for supporting Castro and demand his resignation and arrest for crimes against the Cuban people. And the pig is now doing loop the loops over Miami.
69 posted on 04/27/2003 2:09:32 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: tet68; river rat
The gibbet is too good for Hanoi Jane. Trample her with chariot wheels and feed the remains to pigs. (think the end of Jezebel)
70 posted on 04/27/2003 2:10:34 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: Calpublican
"Now, I'm almost famous." LMAO!

Right! Sounds more like a line from 'Natural Born Killers'.....

71 posted on 04/27/2003 2:10:51 PM PDT by BossLady (Propaganda.....melts in your mind.....not in your hand......)
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To: alloysteel
I wish we would have given more publicity to the torture and all the abuses perpetrated by Saddam and Co so that these weasels could be identified as supporters institutionalized crimes against humanity.

That would be sweet to post their pictures side by side with mass graves and mangled bodies produced and then say; "We support the right to rule through murder and torture"... or something along those lines.
72 posted on 04/27/2003 2:13:37 PM PDT by Minty
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To: tscislaw
well put!
73 posted on 04/27/2003 2:13:53 PM PDT by Guenevere (...STAY THE COURSE!!)
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To: weegee
>>Prof. Howard Suber, founding director of UCLA's film and television producer's program, said the eerie silence from Hollywood was to be expected once American troops were on the ground in Iraq. <<

Maybe I just missed something, but isn't this just spin? Wasn't Hollyweird out in full force during the ground war? Didn't they start to hide after the fighting was over and the truth of Saddam's regime was undeniable (for sane persons)?

DK
74 posted on 04/27/2003 2:18:42 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Don't you see that the "No Nukes" crowd only protests American weapons development and does not take of the issue of North Korean nuclear missle technology?

Maybe when one of the missles lands in their backyard they'll get upset but then it will be with the Republican President or Senate leader or governor, etc. because obviously something a Republican did somewhere got the N. Koreans mad at us and it was obviously the fault of some Republican that he did not do enough to prevent this action (or even he "knew" about it and let it happen anyway).

75 posted on 04/27/2003 2:19:06 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: alloysteel
I think the problem for the Hollywood Anti-War bunch is that they were trying to strike a pose as compassionate, caring people. Then our troops marched into Baghdad and were hailed as liberators, and despite mumblings about 'No one knows what might have been achieved through peaceful processes,' it's apparent that doing things the Anti-War way would have a bloodthirsty tyranny in charge of Iraq.
76 posted on 04/27/2003 2:19:32 PM PDT by JoeSchem
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To: Dark Knight
Hollywood got silent when Baghdad Bob stopped feeding them talking points.
77 posted on 04/27/2003 2:22:49 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Sam Cree
What I have trouble understanding is why entertainers are so drawn to totalitarianism.

Because they all know that socialism works - for those in charge. They've become accustomed to seeing themselves on top in their sick utopian dreams of power and control.

78 posted on 04/27/2003 2:24:46 PM PDT by Noumenon (Don't immanentize the eschaton!)
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To: Timesink
Have to wonder if people could manipulate Soundscan's tracking of album sales by a concerted effort to buy someone's album (near the top of the charts) and then return it to stores unopened a week later.
79 posted on 04/27/2003 2:27:06 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: BossLady
LOL!
80 posted on 04/27/2003 2:28:46 PM PDT by Calpublican
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