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Lucifer, The First Liberal
The Wanderer ^ | March 6, 2002 | Dr. Arthur M. Hippler

Posted on 05/01/2003 12:23:02 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner

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To: Joe Whitey
Civil disobedience is a form of anarchy. Religion in todays terms has nothing to do with it. If a group is going to disrupt and kill civilians in some relgious coup, then they will need to be dealt with.

Satanic verses as Rushdy wrote, is what has created the terror networks in the traditions of satanic actions.

I as a Christian do not believe in the inquistion or the like, I just want those who terrorize the worlds good souls,
brought to a just end, by the hand of God.

Ops4 God BLess America!
41 posted on 05/01/2003 3:02:49 PM PDT by OPS4
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
What a fantastic (and true) title!

Bookmarked and Bumped!

43 posted on 05/01/2003 3:09:41 PM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic (I'm being followed by a moonshadow...)
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To: genefromjersey
The next thing you know some wiseacre will compare Lucifer to the Clintons.
44 posted on 05/01/2003 3:10:36 PM PDT by LuisBasco
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To: LuisBasco
That has allready bee done! And how true it is.

Ops4 God Bless America!
45 posted on 05/01/2003 3:13:50 PM PDT by OPS4
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To: Joe Whitey
Disestablishmentarian bump!

I yam what I yam! LOL!

Actually, no word better describes my politics. Disestablish every conventional, politically-correct authority-- in the schools, in the courts,....

...then we would have a truly free society.

;^)
46 posted on 05/01/2003 3:23:20 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: vpintheak
Socialism is not liberalism. They are very different political philosophies, though both misguided. The Government was founded under God but is certainly not a theocracy, and the fact that the Church and State remain separate is a proud foundation of American Democracy. The fact that faith or the lack of it is tolerated and even celebrated in the United States is what makes us free. If you think that this Country can remain free but only tolerate Christian beliefs then you are not a patriotic American.
47 posted on 05/01/2003 3:29:55 PM PDT by Theyknow
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To: headsonpikes
Yeah, like the pictures of the Watts riots.

Ops4 God Bless America!
48 posted on 05/01/2003 3:29:59 PM PDT by OPS4
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To: Theyknow
No! Just the religious beliefs that are outlined by Thomas Jefferson and Sam Adams, it had to do with the God of Abraham and the Son of God.

As Rushdy wrote, The Satanic verses are what has terrorized the middle east, it is hidden in the Koran and the rewrites,
by religious zealots.

Any religion that accepts Satanic Laws, should be banned,
since Good will prevail over evil, putting evil in the wrong I might guess, even by the standard of Ben Franklin as written in Poor Richards Almanac.

So much for the non-liberal socialist views that would
allow satan any room to be heard.

Ops4 God BLess America!
49 posted on 05/01/2003 3:36:20 PM PDT by OPS4
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To: OPS4
Sure, Watts.....

I find you disingenuous.
50 posted on 05/01/2003 3:38:01 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Theyknow
The positions asserted in this article are insidious and deceptive; therein lies the danger. The inference is made that one is bad while the other is good, when in fact all have sinned; you, me, them.

Romans 3
22 This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

51 posted on 05/01/2003 3:56:37 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: RAT Patrol
Why not have a sense of humor about it?

Respectfully, I don't think it is wise to give opposition bucketfuls of ammunition like this. This is not the way to win minds and souls . . .

52 posted on 05/01/2003 4:02:48 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: headsonpikes
Well, I find it to be a great comparison in Civil Disobedeince brought on by Liberal Rhetoric.

Ops4 God bLess America!
53 posted on 05/01/2003 4:26:45 PM PDT by OPS4
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To: headsonpikes
Well, I find it to be a great comparison in Civil Disobedeince brought on by Liberal Rhetoric.

Ops4 God bLess America!
54 posted on 05/01/2003 4:26:45 PM PDT by OPS4
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To: BraveMan
This is not the way to win minds and souls Perhaps not. I don't think this was about persuading anyone. I found it funny I guess because I do think liberalism is evil. I really do. They call good evil and evil good. They love smut and are disgusted by things like abstinence only education. They are pro-deviancy but want the gov't to confiscate my property to pay for the resulting social problems and diseases. They refuse to recognize the human rights of an unborn child. They want to destroy a reap what you sow culture and replace it with a plunder the efforts of others culture (they are cultural looters). With freedom comes the freedom to fail, but they want me to guarantee their high-risk behaviors. They think nothing of falsely accusing innocents of things like racism if it will advance them to power.

I could go on, but you get the picture.

55 posted on 05/01/2003 4:30:22 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: BraveMan
Yes, and you are right on. My beef is with those who would use this article to raise the premise, evil is a religion, and or satanic roots thereof , are an acceptable alternative religion to Gods law, as laid out by Abraham,
and the Son of God.

Ops4 God Bless America!
56 posted on 05/01/2003 4:31:40 PM PDT by OPS4
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To: OPS4
Show me where in the Constitution Christianity is endorsed as the national religion. Freedom of Religious expression is a benchmark American value. The Establishment Clause of the Bill of Rights was included for that very purpose. It is wrong-headed and absolutely anti-American to exclude religious views or to establish a state religion. This is NOT a theocracy, read your Constitution and Bill of Rights. Your interpretation of American history is simply wishful thinking on your part and has nothing to do with the Constitution. America is free, like it or not.
57 posted on 05/01/2003 4:47:47 PM PDT by Theyknow
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To: Theyknow
No one said it is. I say that evil as in satanism, is not acceptable as a foundation in our constitution. Good works as defined in the Old and New Testaments guided this counrty through its toughest times.

When people try to use this post to make satan just as acceptable as the God of Good Works, I will always take the issue that the founding fathers had never intended this to be the case.

Theology is not the issue, the Truth is!

Ops4 God BLess America!
58 posted on 05/01/2003 4:54:25 PM PDT by OPS4
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To: OPS4
Show me where in the constitution Christianity is endorsed as the national religion. Freedom of Religious expression is a benchmark American value. The Establishment Clause of the Bill of Rights was included for that very purpose. It is wrong-headed and absolutely anti-American to exclude religious views or to establish a state religion. This is NOT a theocracy, read your Constitution and Bill of Rights. Your interpretation of American history is simply wishful thinking on your part and has nothing to do with the Constitution. America is free, like it or not.
59 posted on 05/01/2003 4:57:32 PM PDT by Theyknow
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To: Theyknow
Are you duplicating? Please have a new thought!

Ops4 God Bless America!
60 posted on 05/01/2003 4:59:14 PM PDT by OPS4
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