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To: Zionist Conspirator
OK, I apologize for attacking you.

And, for those who so smugly pointed out, I was obviously wrong on the casualty figures.

The main argument, however, is ironclad. Israel would not exist without the aid (we give more aid to Israel than to any other country, we give it the latest military technology), the friendship, the support of the US. And, the US saved the world for generations by sacrificing itself, on two fronts, in World War 2, and then in the Cold War that followed.

I hope there is a peace in the Middle East. Hope is greater than cynicism, hope is greater than guns. Someday, there will be a peace--but I do not think it will be by the roadmap, nor will it be by Abbas, the new Palestinian PM--he's another Arafat.

The US is also a miracle of God--no other country has changed the world in such a positive way. We have our faults, and we hear about them constantly, and we are held to a higher standard than everyone else, but on the whole, the US--the world's oldest democratic republic--has been a good thing for the world. I thank God for it.

Sorry for being offensive, but the post was extremely galling to me. It is rooted in pride, cynicism, and anti-Americanism. It's one thing to worry, it's another to judge.
5 posted on 05/01/2003 9:10:11 PM PDT by Norm640 (Patriot, Republican, Catholic.)
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To: Norm640; countrydummy; tuckrdout; sauropod
Sorry for being offensive, but the post was extremely galling to me. It is rooted in pride, cynicism, and anti-Americanism. It's one thing to worry, it's another to judge.

Believe me, I understand where you are coming from and how you may have been offended. However, I posted the article primarily for its teaching on prophecy and the End of Days rather than anything it had to say about the war in Iraq (although I too am very cynical about the possibility of a "democratic" Iraq).

The author is a Torah Jews. I, who posted it, am a Noachide who accepts Judaism as the true Revelation (though recognizing that non-Jews are not required to convert to Judaism but rather observe the Seven Laws of the Sons of Noach). Thus the author's worldview, and my own, will differ from that of sincere chr*stians. According to Judaism, the Jewish people are fated by G-d to be all alone in the end with no one to turn to except G-d Himself. G-d will use America to bring this about just as He uses all other nations. The Jewish people cannot be allowed to depend on anyone or anything other than G-d. America thus will eventually turn on Israel if the Jewish people do not go ahead and obey G-d, depending on Him alone rather than on politics, alliances, etc.

I understand that sincere American chr*stians (which I used to be) want to believe that America was created by G-d to be His chr*stian counterpart to Israel and will stand by her to the end, but please keep in mind that the author (and myself) do not accept chr*stianity and cannot accept this view. Even if chr*istianity were true, America was not founded by good orthodox chr*stians but by enlightenment deists and rationalists anyway. Who can believe that Thomas Jefferson was a counterpart to Joshua or David?

I too take pride in the fact that America is Israel's only ally. However, that alliance is not based on submission to G-d to on such false and secular concepts as "democracy" and "shared interests" and "shared values." That is why our government still supports a "palestinian state" whatever it thinks of the current regime of Arafat. The United States of America is a secular country and cannot as at present constituted acknowledge the True G-d (thanks ironically in large part, as you well know, to liberal Jews!). In the end the only reason to support Israel is not for any secular reason but because Israel's G-d is G-d and should be obeyed by all His creatures. Because America is a secular nation (however religious the population) it cannot support Israel for the right reason, and unless its ideology changes radically it will eventually betray the Jews. Only the Jews turning to G-d alone now (after which America could proudly stand by her side as a G-dly nation) will prevent this.

I also posted the article because it assures the reader that however messed up things seem now (ie, a secular State of Israel based on Hellenistic western democratic concepts rather than on Torah), that nevertheless all things proceed according to plan, and even this situation fits G-d's revelations of the future perfectly. Also, I felt Rabbi Kahana''s (zt"l, Hy"d) teaching on the State and Yom Ha`Atzma'ut (Israel Independence Day) might be helpful to Jewish FReepers.

To the rest of you, I assure you that I am a simple redneck from the rural South and more Fundamentalist than ever. Please do not allow secular Jewish liberals to give you an allergy to genuine Theocratic Jewish critiques of America (and Israel). I assure you the Kahanists are true Biblical Jews and the exact opposites of Jewish liberals in every way.

Thank you for listening. G-d bless.

9 posted on 05/02/2003 8:41:32 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (G-d's laws or NONE!!!)
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